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Aug 23, 2019 11:53 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Former Executive Editor Of The New York Times Speaks About 'Truth In The Time Of Trump'

Joe Shaw, the executive editor of the Express News Group and Bill Keller, the former executive editor of The New York Times at the Rogers Memorial Library on Thursday.      DANA SHAW
Aug 27, 2019 2:57 PM

Has Donald Trump’s presidency affected the meaning of “truth” in the media industry?

Bill Keller, the former executive editor of The New York Times, sat down with Joseph Shaw, the executive editor of the Express News Group, to dissect that loaded question.

The free event, held at the Rogers Memorial Library in Southampton, reached maximum capacity days before it was scheduled. More than 100 people filed into the library’s meeting room on Thursday afternoon, August 22.

Mr. Shaw started the conversation by noting the necessity of having an “adult conversation” about the current administration and the role it has played in the world of news media, for newsrooms and audiences alike. “I don’t want it to be about bashing the president, but I want to talk about how, as an industry, we, in general, have to respond to it,” Mr. Shaw said.

All eyes were on Mr. Keller, a veteran journalist and editor with almost 50 years of experience in the industry, 27 spent at The New York Times. He started there as a reporter in the Washington, D.C., bureau and ended as the executive editor, the newsroom’s highest-ranking position.

He was also the founding editor-in-chief of the The Marshall Project, a five-year-old Pulitzer Prize-winning nonprofit online news organization that solely covers issues related to the U.S. criminal justice system, before stepping down in April.

With Mr. Keller’s national, international and nonprofit news background, and Mr. Shaw’s community news background, having worked at a local news outlet covering the South Fork for 21 years, the hour-and-a-half-long conversation illustrated the current state of the news media at all levels.

Mr. Shaw cut to the chase with his first question: “In the time of Trump, is there a crisis that we’re facing in our industry?”

“The short answer is, yes,” Mr. Keller replied.

He spoke about Mr. Trump’s denunciation of the mainstream media and how that has posed challenges to news organizations and reporters who must maintain an objective eye. He also placed some of the blame on the consumer, saying we have an “audience problem” and suggested that there should be more of an effort in schools to teach media literacy and “critical reading,” as they do critical thinking.

The two men discussed how internet use has transformed the way news is being produced and consumed, leading to a rapid spread of misinformation and a loss of discipline within the field, and how organizations are adapting to address the change.

Despite the challenges that the industry currently faces, as outlined in the talk, Mr. Keller gave listeners at least one takeaway: “With all of its flaws, we still are the glue that holds the democracy together. People have to know what the government is doing and why. They have to know how the economy works. They have to know what their fellow citizens are going through.”

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By even flow (951), East Hampton on Aug 27, 19 12:28 PM
Not news:

Prevaricator in Chief

That's just the truth. An old one at that.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 27, 19 12:32 PM
Trump is a demagogue. It's no surprise that he has tried to control the narrative from day one. The real losers here are the ones who fell for it.
By johnj (1017), Westhampton on Aug 27, 19 12:45 PM
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The NY TImes should worry about their own issues.

Why Journalists’ Old Tweets Are Fair Game for Trump
New York Times editors don’t deserve special immunity from scrutiny for bigoted speech.

By JACK SHAFER August 26, 2019 Politico

Aug 27, 19 1:03 PM appended by Po Boy
And of all the thin-skinned beasts prowling the journalistic forest, few have a thinner epidermis than the boys and girls who work at the New York Times. On Monday, the Times’ immune system was activated to produce a Page One story to retaliate against pro-Trump activist Arthur Schwartz, an intimate of Donald Trump Jr. Schwartz, the Times reports, is part of a network of pro-Trumpies who have been digging for embarrassing dirt on journalists who work for Trump-critical media—CNN, the Washington Post, and, of course, the New York Times. According to the Times, the network shares its embarrassing discoveries—call them oppo research, if you’d like—with conservative political operations and then stands by to enjoy the drama.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 27, 19 1:03 PM
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Of course everyone's old tweets are fair game. Did anyone say they weren't?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 27, 19 1:17 PM
Yes,

Times Publisher A.G. Sulzberger did himself, his paper and his staff no favor by issuing a public memo to his staff decrying what he called an unprecedented “coordinated campaign … to attack hundreds of journalists in retaliation for coverage of the administration.” Sulzberger wrote: “This represents an escalation of an ongoing campaign against the free press.”
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 27, 19 1:26 PM
Does "coordinated" mean unfair? What thesaurus are you using?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 27, 19 1:52 PM
The password is "fair game"

Bing!
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 28, 19 1:26 PM
So nobody said they weren't fair game? That's what I thought.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 29, 19 11:24 AM
The quoted headline from Politico read: "Why Journalists’ Old Tweets Are Fair Game for Trump"

Apparently someone had the impression someone thought they weren't fair game. Given the NY Times reaction in publishing their scathing rebuttal, the author Jack Shafer (for one) of Politico thought the NY Times thought the digging up of the tweets weren't fair game. I would agree.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 11:34 AM
Did Jack Shafer say he thought the NY Times thought the digging up of the tweets weren't fair game?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 29, 19 11:52 AM
This is the part where you want to find the words, "fair game", right?

Yawn...

Maybe, it was the NY Times issuance of a public memo to its staff decrying what the NY Times publisher called "an unprecedented coordinated campaign … to attack hundreds of journalists in retaliation for coverage of the administration.” Sulzberger wrote: “This represents an escalation of an ongoing campaign against the free press."

Don't be a dunce. Enjoy the subscription. ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 11:57 AM
So Jack Shafer didn't say he thought the NY Times thought the digging up of the tweets weren't fair game?
Aug 29, 19 12:12 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I guess nobody used "the password" after all, huh?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 29, 19 12:12 PM
Sigh... so childish...so here we go....

fair game
noun: fair game
a person or thing that is considered a reasonable target for criticism, exploitation, or attack.

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 12:23 PM
Since nobody used "the password" did anyone use its definition?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 29, 19 12:25 PM
Why, yes, as we come full circle. The New York Times in it's Sunday retort.

It's why their comrades who they would normally share cocktails with are excoriating them with headlines like "Why Journalists’ Old Tweets Are Fair Game for Trump." DUH.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 3:39 PM
The New York Times said they weren't a reasonable target? Please quote it for me.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 29, 19 3:57 PM
"an unprecedented coordinated campaign … to attack hundreds of journalists in retaliation for coverage of the administration.”

“This represents an escalation of an ongoing campaign against the free press."
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 10:35 AM
What part of that means "unreasonable"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 11:01 AM
Is "an escalation of an ongoing campaign against the free press" inferred to be reasonable?"
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 11:32 AM
There's an ongoing campaign and it was escalated. Which part says the escalation was unreasonable?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 11:35 AM
The part where the NY Times is criticized for it's reaction by their colleagues.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 11:49 AM
Where did "their colleagues" say the NY Times thought the escalation was unreasonable?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 12:09 PM
"Why Journalists’ Old Tweets Are Fair Game for Trump"
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 2:02 PM
That's not what that article says and even if it did, my characterization of what someone else said isn't necessarily what someone else said, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 2:41 PM
What it said was, "an unprecedented coordinated campaign..." Right?

Why is it so many of their colleagues - in their words - consider the bigoted tweets as fair game for the president? Could it have been...wasn't it...based on solely the New York Times response?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 10:52 AM
That's a lot of inferences which you're free to make but don't necessarily reflect reality.

The reality is that nobody from the NYT called the campaign unfair or unreasonable, and nobody from Politico said the NYT called the campaign unfair or unreasonable.

Why is nobody using the "magic words" Po?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 11:20 AM
That's a lot of inferences which you're free to make but don't necessarily reflect reality.

The reality is that nobody from the NYT called the campaign unfair or unreasonable, and nobody from Politico said the NYT called the campaign unfair or unreasonable.

Why is nobody using the "magic words" Po?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 11:20 AM
All news is biased one way or the other. Some afraid to look into subjects. Some of our so called rich or famous don't make the negative news. All the negative news about TRUMP was published, Booker did not get a line, Bill and hillery still get the great lines???
Was the informative or just a bashing??? Sorry, didn't go...
By knitter (1866), Southampton on Aug 27, 19 1:17 PM
I think most rational people know what this “crisis” in your industry is. Self inflicted wounds. Live with it
By Lets go mets (377), Southampton on Aug 27, 19 1:17 PM
Speaking the truth now at nyt? How novel.
By dave21 (15), westhampton on Aug 27, 19 1:30 PM
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Is there an audio tape of this sit down? Will definitely help with my insomnia.
By Stolzr (9), Bridgehampton on Aug 27, 19 1:31 PM
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I wasn't aware anyone at the NYT even knew what the word "truth" meant. They gave up on that concept several years ago and turned into worse than tabloid when it comes to facts and accuracy. It's just a giant echo chamber for those who only like to hear their distorted opinions reverberated back to them.
By localEH (426), East Hampton on Aug 27, 19 1:43 PM
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I believe you're thinking of Fox News
By johnj (1017), Westhampton on Aug 27, 19 1:55 PM
The paper used to have an Editorial section. Now the WHOLE paper is an editorial section. Opinions and narrative are the norm in "reporting".
By lirider (285), Hampton Bays on Aug 27, 19 2:02 PM
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If you can't tell the difference between fact and opinion, that's a personal problem.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 27, 19 2:05 PM
CNN and others to include the NY Times ran opinion for over two years pushing a fake story and their readers STILL can't tell the difference.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 8:05 AM
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All the FAKE NEWS that’s fit to print
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Aug 27, 19 2:09 PM
And lo, they with poor grammar,
Did hereby come to stammer.
With cries of "FAKE NEWS" in hand,
Without merit did they all stand.
On privilege's steed,
Do they find their fortune and need...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 27, 19 11:46 PM
The ‘mainstream” media has been dumping gasoline all over themselves for decades by squandering their own credibility and allowing themselves to become totally politicized. All Trump did was light the matches.
By CPalmer (103), Southampton on Aug 27, 19 2:55 PM
All the trumpets are having a field day. They don’t like the fact that news outlets report the truth. Trump is a liar , racist and misogynist . You all swallowed his lies. I don’t see anyone posting stories to back your nonsensical posts, but that to be expected.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 27, 19 3:23 PM
In their 2007 book Until Proven Innocent: Political Correctness and the Shameful Injustice of the Duke Lacrosse Case, KC Johnson and Stuart Taylor, Jr. sharply criticize The New York Times for their editorial judgment and its effect on the case investigation. It claims that the original reports by Joe Drape tended to exonerate the accused players, which contradicted Times' editorial stance. This led to Drape's quick dismissal and replacement by Duff Wilson who took a pro prosecution stance.[54]

Also ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Aug 27, 19 3:52 PM
Good one even flow, 5 million to go
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 27, 19 4:08 PM
Disband the FBI.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Aug 27, 19 4:28 PM
From Media Bias / fact check ..........Overall, we rate the New York Times Left-Center biased based on word and story selection that moderately favors the left, but highly factual and considered one of the most reliable sources for information due to proper sourcing and well respected journalists/editors.
More from Media Bias / fact check.....Overall, we rate Breitbart Questionable based on extreme right wing bias and publication of numerous false claims.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 27, 19 4:33 PM
From Media Bias/ fact check Drudge Report.....Overall, we rate the Drudge Report Right Biased and Questionable due to promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, as well as for publishing fake news and the use of highly questionable sources.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 27, 19 4:54 PM
I wonder what Media Bias rates 27east.com (lol)
By HamptonDad (236), Hampton Bays on Aug 27, 19 7:25 PM
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I think it would be slightly left, but good reporting. They print retractions
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 27, 19 7:45 PM
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There has been no good news printed about Trump because he has produced nothing but flagrant stupidity. His base is a cancer.
By country joe (60), sag harbor on Aug 27, 19 8:56 PM
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Twice in recent memory, the Times has felt the need to publicly acknowledge its failings to readers about matters regarding its journalistic mission, that is, about presenting a true picture of the world. The most recent (and more benign) came five days after the election, when in a letter to subscribers, publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. and executive editor Dean Baquet, vowed to “rededicate ourselves” to honest reporting, “striving always to understand and reflect all political ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Aug 28, 19 3:33 AM
On Monday, September 10, 2007, the Times ran a full-page advertisement for MoveOn.org questioning the integrity of General David Petraeus, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, entitled "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" The Times only charged MoveOn.org, a liberal activist group, $65,000 for the advertisement that, according to public relations director Abbe Serphos, normally costs around $181,692, or roughly a 64% discount. Serphos declined to explain the discount.[49]

Times spokeswoman ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Aug 28, 19 3:37 AM
Even flow, what percent of stories is false, and did the times print a retraction? Save yourself some time. No one ever claimed the Times was correct 100% of the times. I get your point, now point out if the 10,000+ lies trump told were false.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 5:09 AM
From Washington Post........A review of corrections run by the Times, though, reveals that the minor error pointed out by Spicer is almost exclusively the sort of thing that the Times has gotten wrong since Trump took office: a minor factual detail. There’s clearly little reluctance from the paper to offer fixes to even minor things, such as middle initials or incorrect titles.
A review of corrections run by the Times, though, reveals that the minor error pointed out by Spicer is almost ...more
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 5:25 AM
Because President Trump is not a politician , thank God, beat the hand picked Democrat candidate and does not kiss the posterior of the MSM , the NY Times included, there has been an all out assault on him since he became the candidate for POTUS. This sit down doesn't change that. The Democrat Party is in disarray as witnessed by the freak show of leftists they have as candidates.
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Aug 28, 19 6:27 AM
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Yep. An "unabashed capitalist" who engages in protectionism and socialism.

The intelligentsia on "the right" are hilarious.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 29, 19 12:16 AM
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Bigfresh, if he’s not a politician, what is he? A weathervane?trump is a liar and a con man. Try to refute all his lies, impossible. You defend him like he is the sacred cow, except he’s nothing at all. Don’t assault the truth, go after the liar. If there false stories, let’s hear them. Your opinion is valued, but it’s getting in the way of FACTS. I used caps , your modus operandi .
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 6:58 AM
After the Barak Hussein Obama debacle, the country needed a business man, someone from outside the incestuous sewer that is Washington DC , as POTUS. Someone who doesn't bend a knee at the PC altar, someone who is willing to put our nation's interests first, one who is an unabashed capitalist , one who has no qualms about calling it as he sees it without consulting a focus group, one con huevos. All these things are anathema to the limp wristed left and their MSM propaganda machine. Off to work.
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Aug 28, 19 7:15 AM
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@bigfresh: The most admired man in the world rescues our keisters from total economic disaster, rights the ship of state, sets the boom we've been enjoying into motion, and that's a "debacle" to you? Sure hope you never make it to a jury box.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 28, 19 9:27 PM
Good sign off. How many of trumps appointments have left, in disgrace and otherwise? You offer zero facts to back up your right wing talking points. If you ever have a reply with facts, post it. Otherwise you only offer opinions. Facts are your enemy.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 7:35 AM
It's the crummy FBI that is a massive disgrace with all their left wing bums who have been recently tossed out on their keisters, Thank Christ & President Trump for that. Keep America Great & God Bless America. (Robert Mueller who ?)
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Aug 28, 19 8:41 AM
please explain what in not factual about my post above.
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Aug 28, 19 1:26 PM
There’s nothing factual about it, it’s your opinion, nothing more. Debacle? That’s your opinion. Try facts. Wait FACTS, you understand caps better.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 1:30 PM
FACT is, today is #951 in the Presidential Administration

...of DONALD J. TRUMP !
By loading... (579), quiogue on Aug 28, 19 7:54 PM
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Well that’s a fact, have bigfresh build on that.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 8:01 PM
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@ even flow

Jesus wept!

You misrepresent an article that you lifted verbatim from a Right-Wing journal* to be your own thought and follow it with a baseless claim (plagiarized once again**) that The NY Times offered a cut-rate advertising rate to a liberal organization because of its political orientation when, in fact, the same rate is offered to Right-Wing advertisers.***

Every time a true believer posts on this forum, normal readers gain a deeper appreciation of the ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Aug 28, 19 8:59 AM
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True Journalism is dead. Op/Ed has taken over without shame or responsibility.
By Lets go mets (377), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 9:00 AM
Caliphate, a podcast for the New York Times, has received numerous criticism after Abu Huzaifa al-Kanadi admitted on the podcast that he “murdered people” while he was fighting for the Islamic State group.[96] Numerous conservatives called for action against him after his statement, including Candice Bergen.[97] She criticized the liberal government after not ordering law enforcement against him. Bergen also called for Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale to reveal whether the government ...more
By even fIow (16), Westhampton Beach on Aug 28, 19 9:14 AM
After the Times tweeted a cartoon portraying Trump and Putin as a gay lovers, LGBT activist and Democratic Rep. Brian Sims said it's time to stop the homophobic jokes.[100] American transgender activist Jeffrey Marsh said "to have a group that's as well-established as The New York Times personally attacking you feels horrendous."[101]

A spokesperson for The Times defended the animation.[101]

On April 25, 2019, The New York Times's international edition included a cartoon featuring ...more
By even fIow (16), Westhampton Beach on Aug 28, 19 9:16 AM
As I recall I posted something from Wikipedia, the right claimed it wasn’t a viable news source. But keep on going even flow, you have 10,000+ plus stories to catch up to trumps lies
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 9:26 AM
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even flow

You needn't go on, even flow.

We understand. You are incapable of original thought so you steal the thoughts of others to fill the void where yours would have gone.

Why not just tell readers to read "The New York Times controversies" entry in Wikipedia rather than reproduce it in installments?

Why not formulate a rational argument of some sort? (Oops! Forgot. See ¶ 2.)

By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Aug 28, 19 9:39 AM
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PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP IS THE PEOPLES PRESIDENT

KEEP ON TWEETEN !
Aug 28, 19 1:09 PM appended by Ditch Bum
PS Brexit is happening. savour Freds tears!
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Aug 28, 19 1:09 PM
OH My

Portly Hillary Clinton Spotted in Hamptons Looking Rough Wrapped in a Tent
August 28, 2019, 10:54 am by Cristina Laila

What is wrong with Hillary Clinton?

Twice failed presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton was spotted in the Hamptons on Monday looking rough wrapped in a tent.


For years Hillary Clinton has denied she has significant health problems, but she looks unwell in recent pictures.

Thank God this woman is not president.

Hillary ...more
By They call me (2758), southampton on Aug 28, 19 1:34 PM
Could you imagine if she would have won ! good god we dodged a bullet !
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Aug 28, 19 7:47 PM
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Just an unhealthy obsession.

Sad...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 28, 19 8:42 PM
Secretary of Summer! Hillary Clinton looks relaxed in a pinstripe shirt dress and a sporty sunhat as she enjoys a stroll with a friend in the Hamptons

Hillary, 71, was seen walking with a friend near Amagansett Square, a shopping and dining area in Amagansett, New York

The former secretary of state donned a long-sleeve shirt dress and navy flats

She accessorized her look with a sunhat, a crossbody bag, and dark sunglasses

The two women appeared to be deep in ...more
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 28, 19 8:55 PM
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all of that and not a kind word to say about our beautiful and elegant first lady ? you are a sore loser mr z
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Aug 29, 19 6:35 PM
Here’s a kind word. Her soft porn was a first for a First Lady.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 6:40 PM
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I love the way the alt left tries to paint an elegant and educated woman as trashy for 25 year old amazing tasteful and stunningly hot modeling pictures... while at the same time telling us ho bag Miley Cyrus is a artist. Do you ever listen to yourselves

Melania is a smoking babe!
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 8:34 PM
I stand by my post, born good looking is her only attribute
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 8:40 PM
Hey Ditch, who said anything about Miley Cyrus?

We're just pointing out that the first lady posed naked for money and we've all seen the pictures, no judgment.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 29, 19 11:28 PM
Plastic is fake. So are her looks.

Not surprising you go for that.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 30, 19 4:12 PM
I was gonna say walnut or beech. Very cool tho. What distance you shoot that?
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 8:03 PM
Drinking again ?
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Aug 28, 19 8:08 PM
Ud, was a text in the wrong box.talking guns
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 8:38 PM
The flailing 2020 presidential campaign of former Rep. Robert Francis “Beto” O’Rourke (D-TX) claimed Wednesday that a staffer ejected Breitbart News senior editor-at-large Joel Pollak from a speech at Benedict College, a historically black college, to protect black students.Break out your Popcorn the show is starting .
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 28, 19 8:14 PM
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Perhaps you would be better off citing an actual news site?
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 28, 19 8:47 PM
Maybe trump should speak at a historically black college. That would be entertaining.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 28, 19 9:00 PM
Where to begin with all the great things that have taken place in the African-American community under this president...for starters, higher funding toward the advancement of historically black colleges than Obama when comparing their first two budgets.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 8:16 AM
Po boy correct, that’s why trump has a approval rating of 88% among blacks . Ooops, that’s disapproval. As JC Watts father said,” a black man voting republican is like a chicken voting for col. Sanders .” Some truth to that.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 12:07 PM
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Which begs the question...what have Democrats done for the black population that the senior J.C. Watts who headed the Oklahoma NAACP chapter was so engrained to?

1999? J.C. Watts Sr., the father of rising GOP star Rep. J.C. Watts Jr. of Oklahoma before father and son agreed to disagree? LMAO.

I think you meant to say more with more recent application... "a taxpayer voting for Barack Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders'"




By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 12:20 PM
If trump is the savior, why is his unfavorably so high?
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 12:32 PM
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Who said the president is "the savior?" I think the messge is the president has done many very good things for the African-American community. I don't see why a visit to a hisotirically black college would be "entertaining" given a pretty good track record.

But to your question about "unfavavorable", perhaps it's generations of very successful messaging by Democrats (very well done messaging I'll admit) convincing blacks that Democrat's are in fact the saviors. I'd welcome examples of what ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 3:35 PM
Po boy, blacks have brains, and can think. Why do you think they’d follow trump with his racist rhetoric?to say the democrats “messaging “ is what did it is totally disingenuous and foolish. I generally ask some of my friends of color what they think, not one backs trump or the republicans. One friend just got back from a family reunion in va., I asked him if any of his relatives were trump fans. His response, just one, to add, he couldn’t stand him. That lame accusation ...more
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 5:34 PM
the Democrat Party has intentionally attempted to keep African Americans down, look at the Democrat Party controlled cities and the sad state of affairs for the black residents. The improved economy and lower unemployment has benefitted all Americans. Free stuff and reperations the Democrat plan to pander and buy votes.
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Aug 29, 19 5:47 PM
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Bigfresh, you don’t know what you are talking about.please post any citations to back up your far fetched claims. I don’t think you have a clue to what you are talking about.you sound like a rush Limbaugh puppet . Remember, rush is a comedian, nothing more. Try facts for once.to add you defend poor rural whites , like their economic situation is out of their hands. Rush blabbers, you act
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 5:54 PM
My family identifies as hard working Americans that's all, just American. and most of us love president Trump.

Stop your faux outrage and get on with it. The economy is doing great to spite the lame stream media trying to drive a false narrative about a rescission !
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Aug 29, 19 6:17 PM
I’d, that’s your deal, I’m not telling tales like the commander in Chief. If you feel comfortable with a racist president, your problem, not mine
Aug 29, 19 6:21 PM appended by Fred s
To add ud, my friend is a marine Corp Vietnam combat vet. He’s built a great business and is a success. Actually had a story about him in newsday years ago describing the racism he faced in in his life and business. Here’s a clincher, he considerers himself a great American. I consider him one too
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 6:21 PM
Actually had a story about him in newsday "YEARS AGO", like i said move on stop hating you have become what you are describing. Not even kidding, anyone can face discrimination! Sounds like I would consider your friend a great American and I am certain the President would as well!
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Aug 29, 19 8:28 PM
Again, the president is a racist , my friend can’t stand him. Add all his relatives to the list also.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 30, 19 2:45 PM
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By chief1 (2771), southampton on Aug 28, 19 10:08 PM
In a June report, the Times regurgitated the baseless claim that 17 U.S. intelligence agencies agreed Russia was responsible for meddling in the 2016 election. The report in question was published roughly one month after The Daily Caller News Foundation’s fact-check team thoroughly debunked the claim.

The New York Times and other media outlets parroted the claim after former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton used it in a presidential debate. Almost a year later, after the claim was ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Aug 29, 19 3:25 AM
Jonathan Weisman, the Times’ deputy Washington editor, was forced to retract a June tweet insinuating Attorney General Jeff Sessions was corrupt.

Weisman asserted that former FBI Director James Comey testified that Sessions asked him directly to call the Russia probe “a matter.” But Comey actually testified that Sessions’ predecessor in the Obama administration, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, made that request.
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Aug 29, 19 3:27 AM
Even flow, bravo on your crusade. The Times has been in biz 150 + years, you got a long way to go. Your stories amount to probably less then 1% of content. Thanks for pointing out that they have a good track record. Can you say that about your conservative news sources?
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 5:06 AM
America’s role as a bastion of the highest caliber mock-journalism was affirmed in today’s New York Times editorial, commenting on the recent Kansas State Board of Education election. Making no pretense of interest in truth and objectivity, the New York Times let flow as unbridled a delivery of religious dogma as has ever been preached from the pulpit of an editorial sanctuary.
Entitled “Kansas, Evolving,” the piece begins with a standard element of fundamentalist dogma ...more
By even fIow (16), Westhampton Beach on Aug 29, 19 12:23 PM
Where's the Chief of Cut and Paste Police? On vacay are ya', Po? Or is it that you're wowed by flow's literary skill(s)?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 29, 19 9:55 PM
New York Times - News media bias rating is Lean Left.
The New York Times News section has a Lean Left media bias.

Important Note: This page refers to the media bias rating for the New York Times' news content only. Our media bias rating for The New York Times Opinion page overall (which includes various op-ed writers and the Editorial Board) is Left.

About The AllSides Media Bias Rating for The New York Times
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By even fIow (16), Westhampton Beach on Aug 29, 19 12:24 PM
If you can't tell the difference between fact and opinion, that's a personal problem.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 29, 19 12:26 PM
CNN and others to include the NY Times ran opinion for over two years pushing a fake story and their readers STILL can't tell the difference.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Aug 29, 19 3:56 PM
What fake story?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 29, 19 3:58 PM
A little one sided talk arranged by Shaw. Sounds a little biased for the press???
By knitter (1866), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 12:40 PM
Disappointed that you think so. Not sure if you attended or listened...I opened by pointing out that the purpose was mostly about asking Mr. Keller about what he thinks the industry must do in the current climate. I also made clear that a lot of the factors that have led to journalism's challenging present predated President Trump's election--and, in fact, we discussed how the fact that the media so badly misjudged the outcome of the 2016 election as a contributing factor to people's skepticism. ...more
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (206), Hampton Bays on Aug 29, 19 4:01 PM
Knitter, I think it’s called an interview?
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 29, 19 12:50 PM
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@ even flow

It has been a complete waste of time reading your opinions in this thread, even flow, for the simple reason that they aren't really yours. If you would just give us citations to the primary sources, we could read them authoritatively (in the medium in which their ACTUAL authors presented them) rather than as your plagiarized, self-serving misrepresentations.

Moreover, as long as you continue to avoid the effort to actually reason to your OWN conclusions, your posts ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Aug 29, 19 5:12 PM
It has been a complete waste of time reading a lot of opinions on these site

HHS’ pronouncement 3 weeks before the 2016 election:

“We can all look forward with abiding enjoyment to Right-Wing "weeping and gnashing of teeth" becoming melodically louder and louder - - - and climaxing on Nov. 8 with an epochal Republican loss that will be, to the rational, like being stage front at "Desert Trip 2016".

Look for more crazy, incendiary comments from The Donald in ...more
By They call me (2758), southampton on Aug 29, 19 6:27 PM
~giggle~
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Aug 29, 19 6:32 PM
“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”

Quote end f****** quote.

By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 30, 19 4:14 PM
Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Nothing changes from the Mueller Report. There was insufficient evidence and therefore, in our Country, a person is innocent. The case is closed! Thank you.

157K
11:37 AM - May 29, 2019
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 3, 19 10:20 AM
Like the president, you misconstrue "not guilty" as innocent.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 3, 19 10:44 AM
Like communist China you misconstrue "not guilty" as guilty.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 3, 19 3:06 PM
I don't think I do. For example:

Trump is not guilty of obstruction justice. That doesn't make him guilty of obstructing justice. It also doesn't make him innocent.

Now you try. Feel free to use "The Clintons" instead of Trump if it makes it easier for you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 3, 19 3:10 PM
Every defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

So says Robert Mueller.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 3, 19 3:16 PM
That's the government's view, as it should be.

As a private citizen, do you presume the Clintons are innocent?

Do we all have to believe OJ was innocent of murdering his wife?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 3, 19 3:26 PM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Nothing changes from the Mueller Report. There was insufficient evidence and therefore, in our Country, a person is innocent. The case is closed! Thank you."
---------------------

Just another misrepresentation from the Liar-in-Chief. Mueller found evidence but believed that he was constitutionally prohibited from evaluating its "sufficiency."

Here's another tweet from The Donald from ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 3, 19 3:33 PM
"We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the President did commit a crime."

~Robert Mueller
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 10:30 AM
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Left Wing Ghouls ~ The Walking Brain Dead.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 4, 19 10:41 AM
Po and Marlin think the Clintons are innocent because they weren't found guilty.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 11:34 AM
Like the president, you misconstrue "not guilty" as innocent.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7411), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 3, 19 10:44 AM
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 11:52 AM
"Every defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty."

-You
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 12:08 PM
Were the Clintons defendants?

~Me
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 2:04 PM
No, they weren't even charged, so by your logic they're even more innocent than if they were, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 2:40 PM
So, if they weren't charged and aren't "defendants" then innocent unless and until proven guilty holds true, and following your logic for the president, then he should be considered innocent, right?

And his tweet quote "There was insufficient evidence and therefore, in our Country, a person is innocent" is absolutely accurate and NOT misconstrued as you claim - especially in the governments view where it matters, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 10:46 AM
I never said that I think the Clintons are innocent, I just said that if you think Trump is innocent then you must also think they're innocent.

It's true that the government's opinion is more important. I simply don't have to believe people are innocent unless they're convicted if I don't want to.

See: Jussie Smollett.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 11:18 AM
If you don't have to believe people are innocent unless they're convicted if I you don't want to, why should any different standard be applied to others?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 12:01 PM
I don't think I said it should. That actually sounds like the consistency I was seeking from you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 12:09 PM
Good find by They Call Me. Just so next time we have to sit through another pompous, pontificating post by hihat....we all should know how to dissect it. That’s the way it is with most liberals. Long , preachy idealistic diatribes not meant to tell facts but to tell a story. Almost like a fairytale. Do I think Trump is the best man and best president to ever sit in the Oval Office? No. But it sure beats Hillary being there.
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Aug 29, 19 9:09 PM
Sure beats "sitting through" not just the sickening views of the unthinking, propagandized tools of the right wing moneyed interests, but mostly their appalling inability to correctly use and/or spell the words of their native language. This by the same jackals who deride the use of any other.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 29, 19 10:16 PM
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@ They call me & Erin 27 E & DiseaseDiocese

["sigh"]

Even flows' chronic dishonesty is brought to light and found not to merit a comment (or an apologia [which would be fun]) by his fellow true believers.

Skunks don't notice other skunks' smell.
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Aug 30, 19 7:40 AM
The perpetually petulant has again polluted the paper with his putrid poppycock. Why wallow in the comment section of a website only to proudly proclaim your inability to tolerate comments? The court of public opinion is now in session.
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Aug 30, 19 7:47 AM
@ even flow

Would that you had used your comment to defend your behavior rather than to post sophomoric tripe.

"Toleration" of your deceit is tacit approval. Decent people don't do that.
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Aug 30, 19 7:58 AM
There is not one decent person on the left in this country, not one.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Aug 30, 19 8:16 AM
Marlin sounds angry.
I wonder what got his goat?
Relax! Write haikus.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 30, 19 9:26 AM
Marlin is the peter max of commenters, broad strokes and tacky
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 30, 19 9:34 AM
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many thanks to you two for cleaning up after the elephant parade.
Aug 30, 19 10:47 AM appended by themarlinspike
the perfect shovel ready job for you both.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Aug 30, 19 10:47 AM
Thanks for your response.
It's not in haiku form though.
Try more tomorrow.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 30, 19 10:57 AM
........ My bad it turned out to be a new float they were testing out for the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade
By They call me (2758), southampton on Aug 30, 19 2:39 PM
Oh chim chim, you are a funny guy. Is the photo photoshopped?post a picture of yourself, let’s see what kind of shape your in, could be funny
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 30, 19 2:48 PM
That photo is totally worked. Just like the First Lady's countenance.

The actual, unaltered photos can be seen over at the Daily Mail.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 30, 19 4:19 PM
LOL...the Daily Mail uses the SAME picture. Picture 19 of 27.

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 3, 19 3:03 PM
Tupac Shakur was paid by the Clinton's to murder Jeffrey Epstein!
By Aeshtron (393), Southampton on Aug 30, 19 10:32 AM
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Biggie drove the getaway car
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 30, 19 10:45 AM
Tupac Shakur / Biggie who you two live in the past, Its no wonder why you feel the way you do. Get of the plantation !
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Aug 30, 19 2:36 PM
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Ud, it’s sarcasm. Don’t bother ducking, it’s over your head
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 30, 19 2:43 PM
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US spies say Trump's G7 performance suggests he's either a 'Russian asset' or a 'useful idiot' for Putin

Sonam Sheth 21h

Current and former spies are floored by President Donald Trump's fervent defense of Russia at this year's G7 summit in Biarritz, France.

"It's hard to see the bar anymore since it's been pushed so far down the last few years, but President Trump's behavior over the weekend was a new low," one FBI agent who works in counterintelligence told Insider.

"What ...more
Aug 30, 19 4:39 PM appended by Mr. Z
Frank Montoya Jr., a recently retired FBI special agent, told Insider "it's hard not to think the Russians have an asset in the White House." But he added that Trump's erratic behavior and his freewheeling and often false statements imply he's "not playing with a full deck on any matter of state these days." "Still, those same delusions are what give me pause when conclusions are reached about the likelihood he is a Russian asset," Montoya said. "Useful idiot is more like it."
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 30, 19 4:39 PM
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Even amidst a cacophony of nearly nonstop media fusillades against President Trump, the New York Times’ charge has stood out. After months of stories presenting Donald Trump as a sexual predator, business fraudster, puppet of Vladimir Putin, tax dodger, walking emolument disaster and whatever else it can dream up, the New York Times called Trump a liar in a prominent headline—proclaiming “Meeting with Top Lawmakers, Trump Repeats an Election Lie.”

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By even flow (951), East Hampton on Aug 31, 19 5:54 AM
Even flow, thanks for posting that steaming pile of bs. I really like the reference to Steve King, the white nationalist, with zero credibility,on his take illegal voting. Trump continues to lie about voter fraud. Maybe you should post some quotes from his voter fraud commission. If it still existed.the article was noting but far right wing talking points with zero merit.bottom line, trump is a liar. Try to refute it
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 31, 19 6:56 AM
Has a white man ever been helpful to you ?
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Aug 31, 19 8:06 AM
My barber is white.
Swell guy, can't see a damn thing.
Trust him with my life.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 31, 19 8:21 AM
My cop, fireman, minister, doctor, banker, congressman, electrician, plumber, trashman, mechanic, grocer & postman are all nice white guys too !!!
Aug 31, 19 8:41 AM appended by themarlinspike
I'll bet your barber is also your dentist.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Aug 31, 19 8:41 AM
You have your own cop?
Must be nice, I have to share.
But mine are diverse.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 31, 19 9:15 AM
It's interesting to note that in 1492 some of the posters here had self admitted ancestors in the southern hemisphere, who were indeed recorded to be practicing cannibals.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 1, 19 6:06 PM
The fish stays big mad.
I continue to live life.
Die mad about it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 2, 19 8:06 AM
The day they lay you away, what I'll do on your grave won't pass for flowers.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 2, 19 8:24 AM
Thanks for your response.
Can I get another, please?
Your last til' Tuesday.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 2, 19 8:57 AM
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By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 2, 19 10:02 AM
@ even flow

More time-wasting.

You first plagiarized this article* days ago.

Hereafter, please try to do all your thieving at once. That's less upsetting to honest people than if you parcel it out over time.

(Note: The ACTUAL author of "your" opinion, Scott McConnell, is a Right-Wing journalist and co-founder with Pat Buchanan of "The American Conservative.")



* "Why Is the New York Times Lying about Trump?" by Scott McConnell (The National ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Aug 31, 19 8:18 AM
Question: What percentage of the population of Hampton Bays is undocumented Hispanic and/or members (i.e. children or family) of an household run/financed by an undocumented Hispanic?

Answer: over 50%

Question:. What percentage of these people can vote in local/state/federal elections?

Answer: 0%

Taxation without representation is tyranny.

The New York Times is irrelevant and everything politicians argue about locally is political theater. Our schools ...more
By dfree (787), hampton bays on Aug 31, 19 10:35 AM
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Want to defend yourself from the effects of climate change? Move to higher ground.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Aug 31, 19 10:56 AM
Thanks for that sage advice.
By dfree (787), hampton bays on Sep 1, 19 9:31 AM
“Donald Trump has been flogging the truth and twisting facts since the day he arrived in the Oval Office. But anyone who expected more candor from him as president than on the campaign trailer was criminally naive. The real mystery nowadays is why the media seeks to expunge the falsehoods of prior presidents.

“Trump’s Lies versus Obama’s” was the headline in a Sunday Review New York Times piece aiming to drive a final coffin nail into Trump’s credibility. ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Aug 31, 19 1:23 PM
Dem diversity at its best:

From Donald Trump Jr via twitter:
To summarize. Ilhan Omar took (defrauded) $$$ from donors who have very little disposable income. Then she “spent” their cash with her lover , who was married to another woman. And all of this after speculation that she married her brother to get around U.S. immigration law. Yikes!!

He went on: yikes is right. You can’t make this crap up. It’s amazing to me how there is zero news coverage ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Aug 31, 19 2:28 PM
Diseased, posting tweets of Donald trump jr?you can’t scrape that off the bottom of your shoe.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 31, 19 3:22 PM
How predictable Fred. Always attacking the source instead of the substance. There is much truth to what he’s saying here. Denial is the 1st rule in being a true liberal. I personally hope Omar rots in hell. If she committed adultery where she cane from, her head would be on a stick right now....and that’s after she would’ve been savagely raped and beaten. Sharia law! The thing she wants most for people like you and I. What the heck is going on in Minnesota? Wake up out there, you ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Aug 31, 19 3:49 PM
You decry Sharia, yet cling to the Bible.

The hypocrisy knows no end...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Aug 31, 19 8:19 PM
Diseased , the problem is the source has no substance. I wouldn’t trust don jr to lead a round of applause.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Aug 31, 19 5:48 PM
Congrats HHS, your logical fallacy of the week is “ad hominem”
You attacked your target’s character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.


Attacking ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 1, 19 7:15 AM
@ even flow

"[The ad hominem] fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument." *

You made no "argument" so I could hardly address it. Rather, you transposed other people's work verbatim, devoid of explication, and represented it to be your own. I never addressed your stolen goods because to do so would be to encourage your deceit and because deconstructing your ...more
Sep 1, 19 4:59 PM appended by highhatsize
* Texas State University, College of Liberal Arts, Dept. of Philosophy
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 1, 19 4:59 PM
Hey Z...who says I cling to the Bible? Did you read my handle before posting that nonsense?

But if you like talking about hypocrisy then answer this: What do you think of the Obama’s purchasing a $15 million dollar mansion in Martha’s Vineyard? Don’t you remember in 2015 when Michele Obama said “Someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so others can have more”? Looks like the Obama’s plan on keeping their entire pie. Writer Carol Roth ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Sep 1, 19 11:20 AM
The New American Homeless
Housing insecurity in the nation’s richest cities is far worse than government statistics claim. Just ask the Goodmans.

By BRIAN GOLDSTONE
August 21, 2019

Outrageous rents would be less alarming if wages were increasing at a comparable rate. But the opposite is true. Nationwide, the hourly earnings of high-wage workers rose 41 percent between 1979 and 2013; those of middle-wage workers grew only 6 percent. The pay for low-wage workers, meanwhile, ...more
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 1, 19 2:32 PM
I don’t begrudge the Obamas for getting a nice house – even though they “didn’t build that”. But politicians need to stop saying one thing while doing another. Diseased, last I looked Obama isn’t a politician anymore. He rearmed his money. They are not living in a glass house. Their life has been under a microscope for many years. What do you find contemptible? That they didn’t get their money from their rich parents? That he’s had one wife? That he ...more
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 1, 19 2:47 PM
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minimum wage jobs are entry level positions, pay increases with skill level and ability to make money for the owner.
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 1, 19 5:10 PM
Sure. And you can live a cardboard box while doing it.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 1, 19 8:42 PM
...or in mom and dad's basement while receiving health insurance until you're 26.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 3, 19 10:38 AM
The 26-year age limit was done to aid college students. Unless you think they should pay insane amounts of money for medical insurance, and go into an insane amount of student loan debt too....
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 4, 19 7:52 AM
I think Po would rather kids drop out of school and become a burden to society.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 9:17 AM
Was it?

Pelosi: Obamacare Allows You to Quit Your Job and Become 'Whatever'

...you do realize Obamacare was funded on the backs of the young and healthy, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 10:22 AM
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Z....no answer.

Fred...once a politician, ALWAYS a politician. Not to mention, I guess he doesn’t agree with the rest of the liberals on climate change if he’s buying a $15 million dollar mansion right on the water in MV. It’s absolutely hysterical. Webster should change the definition of Hypocrisy to: The true meaning of what it is to be a Democrat.
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Sep 1, 19 10:16 PM
What do you think hypocritical means?

Did he say nobody should be allowed to buy nice houses?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 2, 19 8:07 AM
There’s not one thing hypocritical about it.he bought a house, big deal.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 2, 19 6:55 AM
Or you can work as many jobs as needed, or have room mates to share expenses , why is it that the left seems to be anti business?
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 2, 19 9:28 AM
The kind of inequity that exists presently is typical of banana republics, and to defend it as you do is anti-American. There was a day when entrepreneurs like Henry Ford paid unskilled workers a living wage, one that would allow the purchase of the automobiles they worked on. Plus that was in the day of single earner households. But big change soon come--corporate honchos are finally copping to the fact that there are more corporate stakeholders than CEOs and shareholders. Anyone see Katie ...more
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 2, 19 12:23 PM
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Most Connedservatives are too dumb to realize that the wealth gap between the lowest paid earners and the highest paid earners has ballooned since 1980, and was at it's lowest point post WWII.

CEO pay has increased 940%, while the average worker has seen a 12% increase if they're lucky since 1978. Keep on keepin' your head in the sand, useful idiots.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 3, 19 5:30 PM
...Which was the result of the 1965 change in immigration policy that brought a flood of unskilled labor to the market place, driving down wages for the lowest earners.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 10:16 AM
That's the scapegoat.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 4, 19 2:52 PM
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Automation puts more Americans out of work than immigrants do. Kiosks are already squeezing out fast food cashiers and just wait until self-driving cars dump truck drivers on the unemployment line.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 3:04 PM
Kiosks aren't the cause of squeezing out cashiers. It's Leftist policies and a family-based immigration system that has allowed the flood gates of unskilled labor into the country virtually unchecked that's the cause.

What do you think the implications are of a living wage in jobs that were never intended to sustain a family ? DUH!
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 6:39 PM
Back up that nonsensical post with a citation. Chain migration is causing automation?
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 4, 19 6:54 PM
More like derp. More nonsense from the brainwashed on "the right". Not much more of an ironic description in recent memory...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 4, 19 9:43 PM
Hey Po. Have you been to a supermarket lately? Immigrants didn't steal the cashier jobs, the self-checkout did.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 7:32 AM
HAHAHAHA...looks like some are having trouble admitting the impact of mass immigration of unskilled labor driving down wages (on the middle class) and automation as a result of Leftist policies (living wage driving up the cost to businesses).

Kiosks didn't just happen.


By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 10:32 AM
Immigrants didn't close down Borders, Amazon did.

What do you think is "the impact of mass immigration of unskilled labor driving down wages and automation as a result of Leftist policies" and what evidence do you have to support it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 11:04 AM
I see where on to topic drift...Borders....Amazon... I didn't realize Amazon used kiosks. Who knew!?!

Basic economics
Supply and demand
Living wage policies in jobs not designed to support a family
Profit
Efficiencies
Part-time labor market

Why do you think part-time employment ballooned after the advent of Obamacare?

Top Ex-White House Economist Admits 94% Of All New Jobs Under Obama Were Part-Time by Tyler Durden
Sun, 12/25/2016 - 10:34



By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 12:35 PM
The topic was technological shifts that cause job losses. The examples were self-driving cars, fast food kiosks, self checkout lanes, and online retail.

Try to keep up.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 12:49 PM
No citation to back up your accusations?
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 5, 19 12:52 PM
Nope. The topic as of Sep 4, 19 10:16 AM was immigration.

As of Sep 5, 19 7:32 AM You've attempted to change the topic to "self check out."
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 2:18 AM
So then I didn't drift after all, thanks!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 4:33 AM
Glad I could clear up your misconception
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:54 PM
What miscommunication?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 2:55 PM
To debate Katie Porter is a fools errand. She will hand you your a _ _ and make you look like a clown
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 2, 19 12:28 PM
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OK JuneZ, what is your solution to this situation?
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 2, 19 1:24 PM
So you agree there's a problem?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 2, 19 3:30 PM
No I do not, hence the term 'situation'. I am interested in what your solution to your perceived problem would be, perhaps taxing the hell out of the productive members of society , taxing corporations at even higher rates or some other class envy , anti capitalist scheme?
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 2, 19 3:51 PM
Uh, Skippy, perhaps you haven't heard how many corporations pay no taxes at all. Like Amazon and Netflix, e.g., along with 58 other Fortune 500 companies. On profits of $79B in 2018. Nor apparently have you heard that the Grifter-in-Chief got the corporate tax rate lowered from 35 to 21 percent. Ending up with an effective rate of minus 1% as Amazon did-- after not only paying no tax but also claiming a $129 rebate-- is your idea of having the hell taxed out of them?
News flash, ...more
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 2, 19 4:34 PM
You mean they took advantage of tax rules Congress passed? The nerve of them. 2017 was the only year no taxes were paid for Amazon, and it had to do with tax credits and write-offs for stock-based compensation. From 2011 to 2016, Amazon reported a total $8.2 billion of pre-tax income and $944 million in federal income taxes.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 3, 19 10:36 AM
Yes, the tax rules the owned Congress passes. The root of just one element contributing to harmful economic inequality.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 3, 19 12:24 PM
Those would be the same tax rules where people who don't pay taxes, get refunds, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 3, 19 2:57 PM
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It's not "anti-capitalism". It's anti-neofuedalism.

Foolish, ignorant, and gullible is no way to go through life...
Sep 3, 19 5:31 PM appended by Mr. Z
Maybe we can paint this on a nail, and hammer it through some unreasonably thick craniums: In Atlanta, according to the National Low Income Housing Coalition’s annual Out of Reach report, the “housing wage” needed to pay for a modest two-bedroom unit is $21.27 an hour. (Georgia’s minimum wage is $5.15 an hour.)
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 3, 19 5:31 PM
"harmful economic inequality' please explain that JuneZ. Are you advocating for everyone to be paid the same wage? Or to receive wages according to their need? Perhaps in return for working according to their ability?
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 4, 19 7:05 AM
Do you not understand democracy dies when there is no middle class, or when you have a handful of obscenely rich citizens who have inordinate power and most of the rest unable to weather a $400 emergency? That is called oligarchy. Capiche?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 4, 19 3:17 PM
not sure where you live JuneZ, but our local economy runs and runs quite well due to the wealthy owning a second or third home here. What benefit the mega wealthy directly benefits us all here. Incredible that there are those ultra leftists who want to kill the goose that lays many, many golden eggs. There is a thriving and growing middle class here, including a lot of immigrants who are taking advantage of the opportunities provided by living the American Dream! Hard work and the desire to succeed ...more
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 4, 19 3:47 PM
Bigfresh, this rates up there with one of your more foolish posts. June is speaking on a national issue, you are speaking in terms of Southampton. Might be too much info for you to deal with.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 4, 19 4:07 PM
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He's never been capable of seeing beyond his own tiny test tube. It's the old "I've got mine, so f*** you" mentality. Incidentally, there exists beyond this island the 48 continental states. He doesn't care how it screws over millions, he's got his.
Sep 4, 19 5:56 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, if that's not true, your posts don't belie it.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 4, 19 5:56 PM
The myth of the shrinking middle class.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 6:33 PM
It's no myth. Unless you're a dope with their head in the sand...
Sep 4, 19 9:38 PM appended by Mr. Z
In 1960, the annual average health care costs in America were just $146 per person; in 2016, that figure had risen to $10,348. Over the past few decades, the cost of attending a four-year public college has risen more than 200 percent, which helps explain why Americans now have $1.4 trillion of student-loan debt. The median home value also rose dramatically, from around $3,000 in 1940 (or around $30,000 in inflation-adjusted terms) to more than $200,000 today. And for those who can’t afford to own, renting is problematic as well: A 2017 report by the National Low Income Housing Coalition determined that there is now literally nowhere in America where a minimum-wage worker can afford to rent a two-bedroom apartment.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 4, 19 9:38 PM
seems as if the alt leftists here want to fundamentally change America and take from the wealthy , not sure what they would do with the loot and how much they want. Perhaps JuneZ can explain it .
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 5, 19 6:10 AM
You constantly b**** about taking from the wealthy, when it's the "wealthy" which have taken from the working poor.

Since 1980 the Treasury has printed 13.3 trillion dollars. In that time, the top 20% of earners have taken home more than 2/3 of that "wealth creation". I know you can't wrap your mind around that level of greed, because you don't believe it exists. You complain that the "wealthy" pay most of the taxes. When you take most of the income and wealth, that is simply logical. Wall ...more
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 5, 19 7:18 AM
Of course it's a myth.

You're making broad conclusions based on outlier costs. That's not to say those aren't issues, but to actually conclude whether the middle class is shrinking, you have to compare identical households over time.

*"When you compare household incomes over time, you have to look at identical households. The census defines a household as one or more persons living in the same abode. Fifty years ago, only 15% of all U.S. households had a single occupant. By 2017 ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 10:42 AM
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Brad Schiller? Why don't you just quote Alan Greenspan, lol.

I'd rather quote Pikkety and Saez, whose research and conclusions are far more thought out and thoroughly documented.

I knew you and any sycophant that would "Like" that were on the wrong track, but come on man...

By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 5, 19 7:36 PM
21 people shot so far this Labor Day weekend in NYC. 5 dead and 7 also stabbed. From NYPDPBA: “NYPD leadership are either out of touch with reality on the streets or ignorant. They claimed the weekend would be “violence free” but this is what our streets are becoming; run by chaos and criminals, emboldened by our leaders.”
A masked gunman opened fire at an occupied police vehicle in Brooklyn today. The cops chased him down and killed him, firing off 60 rounds.

Meanwhile, ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Sep 2, 19 11:20 PM
Total, unadulterated BS. Aren't you embarrassed to be making such claims? Is this just another chestnut that you picked up from some crackpot posting on YouTube or is it something Breitbart told you or straight from the pill-filled mouth of Limbaugh?

For the record, from the first four entries produced on Google when "POLICE SHOOTING BROOKLYN" was searched, all are dated September 2, 2019:

NBCNY, 3:37 AM
NY Post, 4:54 AM
CBS Local, 12:15 PM
NY Times, 3: 00PM

These ...more
By VOS (1224), WHB on Sep 3, 19 2:07 AM
Got it from CrownHeights.com

Labor Day Weekend Violence in NYC So Far: 21 Shot , 5 Dead, 7 Stabbed

Still better than the 80s...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 3, 19 7:19 PM
Here’s the problem vos, it can’t get anymore idiotic. From Talking Points Memo.....The head of a prominent Christian conservative policy organization appeared on Fox News Sunday arguing that the reason the U.S. has seen an uptick in mass shootings is because schools now teach evolution.

President of Family Research Council Tony Perkins said the U.S. doesn’t need more gun laws, it needs Christianity back in the “public square.”

“I mean look, we’ve ...more
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 3, 19 5:44 AM
VOS...thanks for proving my exact point. I mean, do you think before you post? How did you get the information to type into google? From NBC, CBS, Fox, ABC, PIX, WOR, News12? Or was it 660, 710, 770, 880 or 1010AM?? Oh I see , you got it from my post. Haha. Would you have known about it or heard about it without my post? Of course not. This is my point. Sorry the truth hurts. Integrity? My definition of fake news is not just the lies...it’s more so the suppression of news. The same suppression ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Sep 3, 19 6:16 AM
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If you didn't hear about it that's a personal problem.

It was on the front page of each of those websites.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 3, 19 11:12 AM
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By VOS (1224), WHB on Sep 4, 19 12:06 AM
The reason I googled was because I had already seen the story on television and read it in Newsday long before I saw your post and could not believe you could make such an overtly false statement.

Now, I see that you have doubled down on your FAKE NEWS. There is no suppression of this story. That is either a figment of your imagination, a repetition of fake news by some bizarre phony source, or an intentional attempt to deceive on your part. Which is it?
By VOS (1224), WHB on Sep 5, 19 2:21 AM
Diseased, very poetic with the sword line. As to the rest of your post, who cares what you think? No one
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 3, 19 6:52 AM
hahahaha..."liberal tears"....
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 3, 19 10:25 AM

“If you didn't hear about it that's a personal problem.

It was on the front page of each of those websites.”—Fore1gn

Here we go. Another genius. How is not hearing anything from mainstream media a personal problem? I was flipping through those channels (tv & radio) all night and morning. Nothing on the news of violence. Was in front page of select websites but the search could only have been done if you either 1) knew about the violence from a third party ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Sep 3, 19 12:27 PM
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By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 3, 19 12:50 PM
When you says "social media source" do you mean someone sharing the previously-mentioned articles written on mainstream media sources?

News12 plays the same stories every hour. I know a shooting happened in Brooklyn because they told me at least five times.

Where did YOU hear about it? I'm going to assume it's not because your cousin's wife's doctor from Brooklyn shared a text-update about the shooting happening next door.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 3, 19 12:55 PM
Perhaps it's just the same numbness Second Amendment headcases have for mass shootings?
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 3, 19 5:41 PM
Would you say the same thing about First Amendment "headcases?"

I've yet to see one law that will keep guns out of the hands of criminals, only the law abiding.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 6:42 PM
Po boy, someone buys a gun legally. The next week he goes on a killing spree, was he law abiding when he bought it, legally?
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 4, 19 6:50 PM
Um, yeeeaaah!?!

But you do realize, murder is illegal, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 10:20 AM
I realize that Po boy. So your argument is kinda flimsy. I believe most of not all of the say 6 mass murders had legal guns. The whole only law abiding citizens will suffer is weak. Law abiding citizens are suffering, at the hands of people with legally obtained guns.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 5, 19 2:58 PM
Who said "only the law abiding citizens will suffer?"

I sad, "I've yet to see one law that will keep guns out of the hands of criminals, only the law abiding."

100% of the mass murders were illegal, were they not?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 9, 19 12:55 PM
With legally obtained guns, were they not? The vast majority were
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 9, 19 1:00 PM
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In some if not many cases, yes.

And?

Are you saying they opened fire on their own? They didn't.
No matter how horrific it's still a people problem and a crime committed by a person. Making guns harder to get legally doesn't make them harder to get illegally.



By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 9, 19 4:09 PM
Po boy. From 24/7 Wall Street....However, most mass killers get their weapons legally. According to Mother Jones magazine’s database of mass shootings, 81 weapons used in 114 mass shootings between 1982 and this year were purchased legally. The Dayton, Ohio, shooter, for example, purchased his assault-style weapon legally online, according to a report at USAToday.
It’s just ridiculous to suggest nothing can be done. Apparently anyone can get a gun. How about stricter background checks, ...more
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 9, 19 4:18 PM
"Making guns harder to get legally doesn't make them harder to get illegally"???

Somebody teach this man the laws of supply and demand. For such a staunch capitalist he's woefully uninformed.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 9, 19 4:37 PM
You forgot to asnwer the "And?" part. Oh, "stricter background checks."

What does that even mean?? If you are suggesting that would put a dent in the mass killings, you have ZERO proof to support that. In fact MOST would have passed EVEN a "stricter background check."

Oh, something "can be done" Freddy. But doing "something" won't necessarily fix the problem.

Uh-oh...most mass killers use hand guns. Now what? It's not the scary rifles....

Yes, supply and demand ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 10:34 AM
Po boy, as usual you add a useless tidbit of a statistic. I’ll add, the sun was yellow and the sky was blue.you can deflect all you want. By you doing nothing, solves absolutely nothing. I’m trying, your trying not to do anything.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 10, 19 10:58 AM
I'll help you out, Po: when price goes up, say by making guns harder to get legally, demand goes down.

Also, the mass killers who kill more people overwhelmingly use rifles, but I think you knew that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 11:13 AM
Sorry if facts escape you Fred. I simply don't subscribe to the fact taht doing "something" will address the problem. IF you were trying, you'd have an explanation of how "stricter background checks" woud address a problem that doesn't have a sympton. Do you realize NOT ONE mass shooting was carried out by the loopholes you seek to close, for example, firearm sold privately? The Dayton shooter would have been LEGAL either way. He purchased LEGALLY online and went through a background check at the ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 2:17 PM
Po boy, facts don’t escape me. I don’t subscribe do doing nothing, as you suggest. You can laugh and say whatever you’d like, but sitting on your hands is foolish and counterproductive. Don’t do anything, good line of action.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 10, 19 2:34 PM
Criminals may not care about the price, but the criminal they buy guns from probably does.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 9:23 PM
Aw Fred, I didn't say you "subscribe do doing nothing." I said, "I simply don't subscribe to the fact that doing "something" will address the problem."

HAHAHAHAHA..."criminals buying guns that are harder to get legally"..... "demand goes down"... HAHAHAHAHAHA. NOT!!

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 2:10 AM
If you don't subscribe to doing something then you subscribe to doing nothing.

Yes, if prices on the open market go up, then prices on the black market follow.

Basic economics 101...maybe they skipped that one at clown college, huh Po?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 4:40 AM
No. I just don't subscribe to doing something simply for the sake of doing something.

HAHAHA...see there you go again. Applying principles to the law abiding and thinking criminals follow merrily along. You think criminals follow the principles of economics 101. You beleive in unicorns too I bet. Aww....
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:27 PM
Lol, being a criminal doesn't stop the criminals who sell other criminals guns from being rational economic actors.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:34 PM
LOL, being a criminal doesn't stop the criminals who sell other criminals guns from following the same cost structure as las abiding citizens.

If they were stolen, then there is no cost basis, right? They could sell a gun for $5 and still make a rational economic decision in their mind, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:43 PM
Lol, Po thinks someone selling guns illegally will let one go for $5.

The person who stole them is also a rational economic actor, by the way.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:49 PM
Are you saying you know the going rate for a stolen gun on the street?

Do tell.
Sep 11, 19 1:04 PM appended by Po Boy
Oh, and btw, that was supposed to be $50 vs. $5.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 1:04 PM
According to Forbes, "guns are so readily available the black-market price is typically just a few hundred dollars more than retail."

Inside the Black Market for Guns. Forbes, August 12, 2014.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 6:48 AM
According to other sources, cheap ones go for $50.

So you're promoting crime, is that it? I mean, if you want to increase the price of legal guns, then that in turn would ripple into the criminal element, and they'd have to carry out more crimes to pay for the higher price, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 12:21 PM
What sources, Po?

I showed you mine, I dare you to show me yours.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 12:24 PM
'Hot' Guns Fueling Crime, US Study Says
ByPIERRE THOMAS, JACK DATE, JASON RYAN AND JACK CLOHERTYJan. 25, 2013 ABC News

"Former ATF Assistant Director Bouchard says crooks have easy access to cheap stolen guns on the street.

"If you talk to any criminal, they can find a gun within an hour or two. Cheaper guns that were stolen can be sold for $50. On the street, a typical good handgun will run you $200 to $300," Bouchard said."

Why are you promoting crime?

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 3:41 PM
Thanks! I don't think I am.

Your view that criminals who want to kill people will commit more crimes to gain the funds to get a gun seems to be in conflict with your view that criminals who want to kill people and don't have a gun will simply use another tool.

How do you reconcile those two views?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 4:11 PM
Easy. Your assumptions are a fallacy. No where did I say criminals would kill people in their quest to gain funds to get a gun. That's a figment of YOUR imagination.

How do you reconcile higher gun prices leading to more crime?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 16, 19 9:54 AM
Neither did I, Po. Read more carefully.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 9:55 AM
No where did I say criminals would kill people in their quest to gain funds to get a gun. That's a figment of YOUR imagination.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 8:51 AM
I didn't claim you said that either, bud. Keep up!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 8:56 AM
Ah, yes, it's the other thing you said I said, that I didn't say.

No where did I say that criminals who want to get a gun want to kill people. THAT's a figment of your imagination.

Leftists...take your words, change it, and attack you for what you didn't say and then tell you to "keep up." Oy...
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 9:04 AM
You did fail to keep up until just now and wrongly restate what I said twice, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 9:32 AM
So you did intentionally misrepresent what I said. Thanks for coming clean.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:34 AM
I don't think I did, but I'm simply pointing out that you misread (or misunderstood) what I read twice. Ergo, you need to keep up.

First, you said people who want to kill people will find alternative means if a gun is not available.

Then you said people who want to commit a crime with a gun will commit other crimes to afford a gun.

Killing people is a crime, so which is it?

Will people who want to kill people with a gun find alternative means, or will people who ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:42 AM
Ah, the old "conflation" trick - assuming I even said those things.

Yawn.... sure why not....Yes and Yes.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 8:48 AM
You don't even remember what you said and want to pretend those two beliefs aren't directly in conflict? Shameful but unsurprising.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 9:28 AM
Did I use them interchangeably in this thread?

Or is that all you're doing?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 11:01 AM
Cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs.

Those are both beliefs you've expressed, whether or not they were both expressed in this thread. It's not my fault they're contradictory.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 11:04 AM
Diseased, all you do is whine about the media. Go start your own newspaper, print whatever you’d like.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 3, 19 12:48 PM
Mainstream media...
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 3, 19 2:54 PM
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So it's corporate media you have an issue with?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 3, 19 3:21 PM
No, only the corrupt media.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 12:06 PM
FAILING LAMESTREAM MEDIA is too corrupt to report that hurricane Dorian is heading to Alabama! MAGA!!!
By Aeshtron (393), Southampton on Sep 3, 19 4:17 PM
Get diseased on the case, stat!!!!
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 3, 19 4:32 PM
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Obama, whose administration prosecuted and spied on reporters, claims Trump is very bad for criticizing newsrooms

Former President Barack Obama is right when he says his administration’s attacks on the press can't be compared to President Trump's current crusade against the news media.

The Obama White House was far worse for press freedoms.

The former president spoke Friday afternoon at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, urging students to get involved ...more
By even fIow (16), Westhampton Beach on Sep 4, 19 10:49 AM
"Trump’s war against the press is indeed ugly and often over-the-top."

At least on that we agree.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 11:01 AM
"This is some grade-A, primo historical revisionism."
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 12:02 PM
This is the crux of the issue for lots of folks: it's not that Trump is bad at doing the things he says he's going to do (although he is), but that in trying to do them he behaves like a jackass and makes us all look bad in the process.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 12:59 PM
That translates to "over charge" not "reset." Tell Vladimir I will have more flexibility after the election.

This is the crux of the issue for lots of other folks: It's not that the president is bad or good at the things he's going to do (although he's often good and his intentions are always what's best for the country), but that in doing them he is not your typical establishment politician and his style actually makes "us" respected in the process.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 2:01 PM
Are we more respected? How often do you travel abroad?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 2:36 PM
Not only are we not respected, but we are being played really, really badly and dangerously. And the magpies here are oblivious.
Herewith: ( Translated from a YouTube video
by investigative reporter and Russian media analyst Julia Davis)
Putin et. al. on Russian TV:
“For Russia, (Boris)Johnson is a very convenient negotiator, just like Trump. He will inject instability into European politics.”
Host: “And we will wait for them to fall apart.”
“We'll ...more
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 4, 19 3:07 PM
"How often do you travel abroad?"

LOL, nice try. I didn't get 1.3 million air miles on American using a credit card. One thing I learned, looney Liberals aren't any different wherever you go.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 4, 19 6:30 PM
What "try"? I asked a simple question like usual. Thanks for answering this one, btw.

Congratulations on your mile pile, even if AA is pretty terrible.

Do you talk to folks abroad about Trump when you travel outside the country?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 4, 19 6:49 PM
You answered it just like the rest of the liberals answer things here. Snide, obnoxious, pretentious and tongue in cheek. Pompous too.

I’ll leave you guys with this today to ponder:

Ever realize that liberals do not blame the gun when cops shoot people?

Let that one sink in.
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Sep 5, 19 7:07 AM
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Hi Diseased. Do YOU ever travel abroad?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 7:30 AM
A free one way ticket awaits you.
Clean Up America.
Keep America Great.
Sep 5, 19 7:52 AM appended by themarlinspike
Your general attitude really $u@k$.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 5, 19 7:52 AM
Hi fish, how's your day?
Mine is good, hope all is well!
But your haiku sucks.
Sep 5, 19 8:15 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I recommend using the copyright symbol ("©") instead of "@" to make a "c" because it took me a moment to understand what you were trying to say.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 8:15 AM
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By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 5, 19 8:24 AM
"even if AA is pretty terrible."

It's no Cathay Pacific I'll give you that, but may I suggest you try the warm moist towels, the warm peanuts, beverage amenities and the filet is quite delicious. Highly recommended.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 10:24 AM
"Trump Displays Altered Map Of Hurricane Dorian's Path To Include Alabama" - by Brian Naylor, NPR (September 4, 2019)

Further evidence that Trump's mental state is pathological.

Sure, Trump's claim that Alabama was in the path of Hurricane Dorian was ignorant - - - and subsequently displaying a map that had been altered with a sharpie shows his contempt for the truth - - - but being so EGOTISTICAL and STUPID as to believe that anyone could fall for such a transparent lie ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 5, 19 11:06 AM
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Such petulant children... Glad to see the laser focus on the important issue - those effected by the storm. Repeat after me children....Cone of uncertainty...cone of uncertainty...

On Aug. 28 Miami Local 10 ABC "The European model, for example, moves Dorian across Florida and toward the norther Golf Coast." on that same day The Weather Channel "Residents form the northern Golf Coast to Florida and Georgia should monitor forecasts closely." and again that same day The Washington Post "Louisiana, ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 11:36 AM
So he was just using days-old projections when he spread false information that had to be corrected by the National Weather Service?

How is that better?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 11:43 AM
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LMAO...wasn't the briefing last Wednesday...uh...AUGUST 28th?

On Aug. 28 Miami Local 10 ABC "The European model, for example, moves Dorian across Florida and toward the norther Golf Coast." on that same day The Weather Channel "Residents form the northern Golf Coast to Florida and Georgia should monitor forecasts closely." and again that same day The Washington Post "Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and the Florida Golf Coat should also monitor the storm, as there is a scenario in which ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 11:57 AM
Sure, let's say it was Wednesday.

He said this on Sunday: "In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated."

Then the NWS had to issue a correction because the President was spreading false information.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 12:02 PM
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@ Po Boy

You're lying AGAIN, Po Boy (as is The Donald.) That's just about all you (both) do. One wonders if Trump gets as much as a charge out of it as do you.
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"In an Oval Office briefing on Wednesday, it appears that Trump took the next step in his casual dismissal of fact. Showing off 'the original chart' — an older projection model from the National Hurricane Center — Alabama appeared to have been tacked onto the forecast. 'It was going ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 5, 19 12:08 PM
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"Trump Displays Altered Map Of Hurricane Dorian's Path To Include Alabama"

I think this has been sufficiently addressed with the following excerpts from multiple sources referencing the NORTHERN GULF COAST. Last I checked, the Northern Gulf Coast includes Alabama, and I'm learning, also includes watersheds, coastal zone and coastal ocean areas in the region. Tidal surge children....tidal surge....

On Aug. 28 Miami Local 10 ABC "The European model, for example, moves Dorian across ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 12:17 PM
Why was he still working with outdated information and spreading falsehoods on September 1?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 12:26 PM
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So, you seriously want to debate projections from a unpredictable storm where (using hat's own source) NOAA and the National Hurricane Center projections as of August 30 11:00 AM indicated some potential impact for Alabama ("Tue 8 a.m.") and determination was finally made at "11:11 AM - Sep 1, 2019" that Alabama wouldn't be impacted....and reconcile that with whatever statement from the president on the same date?

Gee, I don't know, maybe you could point me to what the president said ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 12:50 PM
On Sep 1 he said: "In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated."

This was false. The NWS corrected him right away.

People who don't want the President to spread falsehoods care.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 1:05 PM
Having settled the debate about August 28th, maybe the president was simply referencing Advisory 33 map from NOAA on September 1, 11 a.m. showing a 5% chance of tropical storm force winds nipping the southeast corner of Alabama, saying at FEMA headquarters shortly later, "And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. ... So, for Alabama, just please be careful also."

Falsehood or abundance of ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 1:28 PM
I don't think "a 5% chance of tropical storm force winds nipping the southeast corner of Alabama" means Alabama "will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated."

If anything 5% was a much lower probability of being hit than it was on August 28, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 1:42 PM
Depends on which end of the 5% you might be on, right?
Sep 5, 19 1:50 PM appended by Po Boy
You're comparing statements like they were said at the same moment in time. Needless to say, no....OBVIOUSLY they weren't.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 1:50 PM
Oh please.

There was a lower chance of Alabama being hit on Sep 1 than there was on Aug 28, period.

What was "most likely" on Sep 1 was the 95% chance of Alabama not getting hit at all.

No amount of bending over backwards and tripping over yourself to make POTUS sound less stupid will change that.

The man couldn't even remember having seen a category five hurricane even though he visited a state hit by a category five hurricane LESS THAN ONE YEAR AGO.

I'd ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 1:57 PM
This is what I love most about kid's with TDS. Facts, details and context escape them.

Well, for starters, what he SAID was that "He wasn't sure if he ever heard of a category 5"... my read is that it was in relation to intensity and perhaps coming ashore, NOT whatever it is you say he said/seen whatever. Hurricanes as you seem to not be aware of, change in intensity. Was a certain hurricane a category 4 before it hit, a 3 a 5 before it hit? Did it lose strength from a 5 to a 3 before ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 5, 19 2:56 PM
Kids with tds? What about people who defend trumps lies? TDS is a made up term by trump, to deflect from his blatant lies. What you are doing is not some made up term, it’s pathetic. He lies about a hurricane. Then comes back with an altered map. Move on, he’s a liar. I wouldn’t trust trump to tell what time it is.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 5, 19 3:03 PM
Po: Had you heard of a category 5 hurricane before last week?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 4:18 PM
@ Fore: Because he thinks sleeping with someone named Stormy made him a weatherman?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 5, 19 10:38 PM
So, on Sept. 1, Trump tweets that, " ... Alabama ... will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated." This is false, and immediately contradicted by the National Weather Service (whose personnel have yet to be replaced by Trump loyalists.)

On Sept. 4, attempting to redeem his ignorant mistake, Trump displays a bogus National Weather Service Map from August 29th (three days before his erroneous pronouncement) showing the "cone of uncertainty" of Dorian's impact which he has altered ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 6, 19 9:00 AM
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Every single cone headed meteorologist was wrong about this hurricane's initial U.S. landfall. It's impossible for anyone to predict a hurricane landfall until it actually happens. The ignorance was, is and always will be on the left.
God Bless America, the devil owns the left.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 6, 19 9:18 AM
Our President is a moron
By johnj (1017), Westhampton on Sep 6, 19 10:05 AM
Takes one to know one.
By Taz (689), East Quogue on Sep 6, 19 10:08 AM
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Hey Spike: It's not about the original mistake. It’s about the manifest mental disturbance reflected by the bizarre behavior of the president of the United States ridiculously and mendaciously refusing to simply admit a mistake. Obsessing (down to and including summoning a Fox News journalist to the Oval Office) while the storm was still raging with millions of Americans still in harm's way facing God knows what. trump has done as much harm to this country as any hurricane.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 6, 19 11:19 AM
You're a sore loser on the losing side.
The moon is circling uranus.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 6, 19 12:37 PM
If a monkey spent five minutes in a room alone with trump, it would quickly know which one had the higher intelligence.
By johnj (1017), Westhampton on Sep 6, 19 12:53 PM
HHS is spending a lot of time explaining how reading posts is a waste of time and commenting is hardly worth it. While he reads the posts and comments on them.
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 6, 19 1:25 PM
I'm just glad we're all in agreement the president didn't visit a state hit by a category five as was falsely reported above.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 6, 19 2:47 PM
Fact: The US was hit by a cat 5 hurricane during Trump's presidency.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 6, 19 4:11 PM
"LEFT-WING FAKE NEWS" aka "YOU LIE" :
Hurricane Dorian is a weakening tropical cyclone currently affecting the East Coast of the United States and threatening Atlantic Canada. The fourth named storm, second hurricane, and first major hurricane of the 2019 Atlantic hurricane season, Dorian developed from a tropical wave on August 24 in the Central Atlantic. The system gradually intensified while moving toward the Lesser Antilles, before becoming a hurricane on August 28. Rapid intensification ...more
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 7, 19 8:30 AM
Hey Marlin, google:
"Hurricane Michael Cat 5"
Tell us what you learn.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 7, 19 8:41 AM
To me the most interesting hurricane was that of 1935 which devastated the Florida Keys. Lots of great back stories there and plenty of physical reminders of that un-named hurricane are left to this very day. The climate has sure improved since then.
Sep 7, 19 9:16 AM appended by themarlinspike
I still remember Hurricane Donna here in 1960, and the contents of ocean front homes floating down Little Plains Road all the way to Toylsome Lane.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 7, 19 9:16 AM
So you've heard of category five hurricanes too?

Why hasn't the president?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 7, 19 9:35 AM
"The man couldn't even remember having seen a category five hurricane even though he visited a state hit by a category five hurricane LESS THAN ONE YEAR AGO."

"Fact: The US was hit by a cat 5 hurricane during Trump's presidency."

FACT - The president visited Florida when hurricane Michael was was classified as a category 4.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 9, 19 12:51 PM
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A category five hurricane hit the United States during the Trump presidency and he claimed to have never heard of one.

Don't like people pointing out the President's idiotic statements? Die mad about it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 9, 19 12:56 PM
Well which is it? Do you wish the focus to be on your incorrect (idiotic) statement, or the revised six months after the president visited?

Didn't hurricane Michael hit in October 2018 as a category 4?
Didn't the president visit Florida in October 2018?
Wasn't the category raised* in April 2019, six months later?
Aren't categoy 5 hurricanes exceptionally rare?

The only thing idiotic is the petulence of the Radical Left..

*Hurricane Michael upgraded to a Category ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 9, 19 4:01 PM
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So Trump wasn't aware that Hurricane Michael was upgraded category 5?

Or he just isn't aware that category five hurricanes exist at all?

If you hold the president to the same standard as you hold random internet commentators...well, that would explain a lot, actually.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 9, 19 4:20 PM
Just a side note, completely backing up trumps claim. With wrist twisting and threats..... from TPM
Report: Wilbur Ross Threatened To Fire NOAA Employees After Birmingham Statement
UNITED STATES - MARCH 14: Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross testifies during a House Oversight and Reform Committee hearing in Rayburn Building discuss preparations for the 2020 Census and citizenship questions on Thursday March 14, 2019. (Photo By Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call)
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross (Photo ...more
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 9, 19 6:12 PM
"If you hold the president to the same standard as you hold random internet commentators...well, that would explain a lot, actually."

If you want the president to be held to the same standard as random internet commentators...well, that would explain a lot, actually.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 10:28 AM
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I don't. YOU do. The president should've heard of category five hurricanes because one of them hit the U.S. while he was president.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 11:01 AM
But he didn't visit a state "hit by a category five hurricane LESS THAN ONE YEAR AGO" because when he visited, it was declared a category 4. Right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 2:05 PM
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Sure, he visited a state hit by a cat 4 storm which his administration later upgraded to a cat 5 storm, then claimed he had never heard of a cat 5 storm.

So was he not aware that Michael was category 5, or has he just never heard of cat 5 storms?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 4:23 PM
Are you saying you incorrectly categorized your claim, "The man couldn't even remember having seen a category five hurricane even though he visited a state hit by a category five hurricane LESS THAN ONE YEAR AGO?"

Because, when he visited, it was officially a category four!
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 2:03 AM
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Sure, I have no problem admitting errors, unlike some folks here.

If only you sought the same humility in your presidential picks!

Speaking of Trump, do you think he heard of cat 5 storms yet?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 4:49 AM
Did you hear when the president visited Florida after hurricane Michael it was classified as a category 4?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:19 PM
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Why would I answer your questions if you won't answer mine?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:23 PM
That's ok. We know the answer to my question.

To your question, how would I know? What we do know is category 5 hurricanses are almost unheard of. That's what I think.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:32 PM
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We know because he TOLD us: "I'm not sure that I've ever even heard of a Category 5."

Well I'm not sure the president has ever heard of a category five storm, which is pretty sad considering a category five storm hit the US during his time in office.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:37 PM
Well, category five huricanes are nearly unheard of according to NOAA.

Wait, that's not the question you asked. You asked: "do you think he heard of cat 5 storms yet? YET you ask? How would I know?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:48 PM
Well I think he MUST have heard of them by now from everyone calling him an idiot for not having heard of them before.

It's an opinion question, Po. Use your imagination!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:51 PM
I don't have an opinion on hypotheticals. What's the point, right?

You and others can, however, feel free to fathom the possibilities if you so choose. Knock yourself out!

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:57 PM
Oh I'll definitely continue musing on whether Trump has learned about category five storms since showing his ignorance, especially if it keeps rustling your jimmies.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 4:50 PM
Well then, it sounds like you're done if you think anything said about the president rustles anything. Especially if it's reminiscent of a petulant child, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:35 AM
It's simple, really: you keep defending the president's dumb statements, so I keep bringing them up.

A simple "yeah, that was stupid, but who cares?" or even no response is enough to stop me but I understand you'd rather defend the president and his dumb statements, even if the reason why is lost on me.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 9:25 AM
Or, is it that you keeping bringing up the president's statements, so I keep defending them? Because, as usual with the petulant children, it's much to do about nothing, other than juvenile hatred.

A simple "yeah, that was stupid, but who cares?" wouldn't do a thing to stop the idiocy of the petulance. In fact, a simple statement by the president is in the process THEN usually found to be out of context, used in a manner against him and halted in mid sentence, or void of any surrounding ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 12:21 PM
So Trump didn't say he wasn't sure whether he's "ever even heard of a category 5 storm" despite the US being hit by one during his administration?

Trump said a stupid thing and if anyone else said it you'd agree, but it's Trump so your knee-jerk response is to defend him.

If it's much to do about nothing, why are you still responding?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 12:34 PM
Did I say the president didn't say he hasn't heard of a category five storm that is virtually unheard of?

I'm here because apparently your misstatement "The man couldn't even remember having seen a category five hurricane even though he visited a state hit by a category five hurricane LESS THAN ONE YEAR AGO," remains illusive to you.

Fact is, the president visited Florida when hurricane Michael was classified as a category 4. Right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 2:50 PM
I don't deny that it was a category four storm when he visited, and I admitted that statement was wrong, didn't I?

That doesn't change the fact that the US was hit by a category five storm during Trump's administration, and that he claimed that he never even heard of a category five storm.

Is either of those statements untrue?

Why do you dislike when I repeat what Trump said, then?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 3:02 PM
Did you admit the statement was wrong?

What doesn't change is that so what if the president claimed he nver even hear of a category five storm?

If you wish to take the statement literally, SO WHAT?

If you wish to give credence to the fact that category five storms are nearly "unheard of" as NOAA has acknowledged, it seems to give weight and context, doesn't it?

Now if Trump the meteorolgist never heard of a category five, I'd be all in.

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 5:06 PM
Oh. And why do I "dislike" when you repeat what the president said? It's because YOU'RE NOT repeating what he said...what he EXACTLY said was:

"I have—I’m not sure that I’ve ever even heard of a Category 5. I knew it existed. And I’ve seen some Category 4’s—you don’t even see them that much.” He finished the thought with..." “But a Category 5 is something that—I don’t know that I’ve ever even heard the term other ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 5:13 PM
Specifically, that a category five storm hit the US during his presidency and he appears to not know about it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 5:17 PM
But you've been misquoting the president the whole time, right?

What the president MAY not appear to know is that a category four was upgraded to a category five, six months after the fact. So what? You' have our jimmies all worked uo over 5 mph.

You didn't know about the upgrade until I told you, and you even had time to research it before misquoting the president, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 5:30 PM
I think the president of the US should know that the category five hurricane that hit the US was upgraded from a category four.

Are you holding me and the president to the same standards?

Feel free: are we both wrong for not knowing, or is neither of us wrong?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 6:08 PM
Why should the president know that detail? Doesn't he have a Secretary of Commerce for that?

Nope, I', not holding you and the president to the same standard. He was speaking off the cuff, you had time to research before making incorrect allegations. YOU were wrong. There was nothing wrong with what the president said.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 12:15 PM
The president didn't have time to find out whether we'd ever been hit by a category five hurricane in anticipation of a press conference about an incoming category five hurricane?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 12:23 PM
Wasn't he receiving a briefing and that's where he learned it was an incoming category five hurricane?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:55 PM
The official category 5 advisory became public at 8AM that morning and the briefing started in the afternoon.

Maybe the most powerful person in the world should do his homework before saying woefully uninformed things.

In the course of learning that I found several similar statements by the way. I wonder if you'll bother trying to explain these away too or just call me a name to derail the conversation:

"I never even knew a Category 5 existed." September 14, 2017.

"Nobody ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 2:26 PM
Whether the most powerful person the in the world should know the specifics of named hurricanes, is nothing more than your ideologue driven opinion, noted with the sentence evident by starting with "Maybe." Maybe <---hahahaha...a good leader relies on good people to know finer details, uh - like the Secretary of Commerce?

The haters are well known for using sound bites void of ANY context of the rest of the statement in their quest to disparage the president. Why should any credence be ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 8:50 AM
Oh good! That was one of my intended destinations: he forgot.

I don't want my president to forget things like the existence of category five storms, especially if we were hit by one during his tenure and he perviously acknowledged visiting a site where a category five storm hit.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 9:48 AM
So what? What has been the tangible impact?

BTW

I call your desire to have a president not remember a minor detail (Trump) and raise you a president who wasn't involved in major issues (Obama - "I wasn't aware").
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:10 AM
I don't think category five storms are a "minor detail" for one thing, but I'd love to hear the context of "major issues" surrounding that quote.

As for tangible impact, it serves as a reminder that our "very stable genius" POTUS may not be as much of a genius as he claims if he can't even remember having talked about and visited a place hit by a category five storm just four months ago.

By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:18 AM
Being forgetful isn’t stupid – it helps make smarter decisions, scientists say*

'It’s important that the brain forgets irrelevant details and instead focuses on the stuff that's going to help make decisions in the real world'

In fact, the purpose of our ‘memory’ is not to remember facts, but to help making intelligent decisions by retaining only valuable information.

So the brain is not malfunctioning when it forgets something, it may have ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:32 AM
Good for you, Po. I want a president who remembers things like category five storms existing or hitting the US during their tenure.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:36 AM
One of the authors of the paper, Professor Blake Richards, of Toronto University, said: “It’s important that the brain forgets irrelevant details and instead focuses on the stuff that's going to help make decisions in the real world.

“If you're trying to navigate the world and your brain is constantly bringing up multiple conflicting memories, that makes it harder for you to make an informed decision.”
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:45 AM
Good for you, Po. I want a president who remembers things like category five storms existing or hitting the US during their tenure.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:46 AM
“One of the things that distinguishes an environment where you're going to want to remember stuff versus an environment where you want to forget stuff is this question of how consistent the environment is and how likely things are to come back into your life,” Professor Richards said."

Hence, category five hurricanes making landfall are almost unheard of.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 12:06 PM
Good for you, Po. I still want a president who remembers things like category five storms existing or hitting the US during their tenure.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 12:13 PM
So don't vote for him again.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 10:59 AM
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And keep bringing up his dumb statements? I will!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 11:02 AM
the alt left's obsession with President Trump is priceless! Carry on Komrades, carry on.
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 5, 19 1:11 PM
Bigfresh, better yet, right wing sycophants dig in and defend a liar.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 5, 19 1:29 PM
A prediction: President Trump wins a second term. The left completely loses it's collective Shite., again. :)
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 5, 19 4:49 PM
I wonder how the “tolerant Hollywood liberals” will treat Isiah Washington now that he said he’ll be joining the #walkaway movement and voting for Trump?
He recently sat down for an interview with Tyrus from Fox:
“)The interview generated a lot of reaction. BET wrote today, "'Grey's Anatomy' Star Isaiah Washington Announces He's Voting For Trump", and TheBlaze covered the news with the headline, "Hollywood actor Isaiah Washington details his decision to quit the ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (594), Riverhead on Sep 5, 19 6:08 PM
My immediate reaction is "who is Isiah Washington?"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 5, 19 6:19 PM
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That makes 3 blacks for trump. Tell him to keep up his racist tweets, he may get 4
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 5, 19 7:15 PM
Not according to my friends and family, you go right ahead and keep fooling yourselves

The unemployment rate for African-Americans fell to the lowest level ever recorded in August, dropping from 6 percent to 5.5 percent. Stop your hate speech !
Sep 6, 19 1:26 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Bitter Fred's Fake News "That makes 3 blacks for trump" - - - Hell I count at least one dozen in this picture alone, your off by at least 30% homie
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 6, 19 1:26 PM
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Ud, isn’t the black unemployment rate twice the white unemployment rate nationally?to add, trumps polling at about8% approval rating with blacks. Explain that. I wuess that’s your family and 2 more.its not hate speech, show me where I say racist things, trump on the other hand.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 6, 19 7:17 PM
Post where the pic is from. Like everything trump, it’s probably fake.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 6, 19 7:31 PM
I thought you didn't care what the Hollywood elite thought. Usual pick and choose hypocritical right wing nuts.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Sep 6, 19 9:11 AM
Who is Isiah Washington? Really
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Sep 6, 19 9:12 AM
I have nothing better to do than to type words into this box : )
By Aeshtron (393), Southampton on Sep 6, 19 10:10 AM
……. but the billboard.....
By Tommy Turbo (59), Cedar Hill, TN on Sep 6, 19 10:23 AM
and our resident alt leftist plays the race card once again, YAAAAAWN
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 6, 19 10:35 AM


Comparing University Life: Poland vs. The USA
#lifestyle & opinion
Author: Elizabeth Lawrence
Published: Aug 2 2018

Universities around the world share characteristics, but experiences vary – especially when looking at Poland and the United States. Culture.pl’s US intern Elizabeth Lawrence compares her own experiences and interviews three Polish students to examine the differences.
In April, I finished my first year at the University of Michigan, one ...more
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 6, 19 11:02 AM
You neglected to paste the part where the young lady describes that often professors simply don't show up and that she had to procure an expensive off campus apartment because there are no real dorms anyone except the most destitute. But hey, it's "free" to her. She just pays for her airfare and apartments - you know, because she's so poor.
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 6, 19 1:28 PM
That there raciest Bug sure is nutty
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 6, 19 6:27 PM
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Ask any Pole how socailism worked for their country. Things improved after it was defeated.
By Taz (689), East Quogue on Sep 6, 19 11:18 AM
The girl in the story didn't want to spend $6,000 for in state tuition so she traveled to Poland so the hard working citizens of that country who work half the year to pay personal income taxes and another 2 months per year to pay VAT taxes could cover her education. What an honorable start to her adult life. But then again, she's typical. The words ''I'' and ''me'' figure prominently in her selfish prose.
By even fIow (16), Westhampton Beach on Sep 6, 19 12:15 PM
Oh Taz, before you pop off, best to know what you're popping off about. Poland was Communist which is not democratic socialism.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 6, 19 6:56 PM
Average cost of college tuition:
Denmark: $0 / year
Finland: $0 / year
Germany: $0 / year
Norway: $0 /year
Poland: $0 / year
Sweden: $0 / year
United States: $8,202 / year
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 6, 19 9:27 PM
are you attempting to make a point here JuneZ?
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 7, 19 7:44 AM
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Somebody has to enlighten and dispel faulty notions, fresh.
Point? No, plural. Points.
You will notice that Germany and Poland are not socialist.
List is actually incomplete. Add Turkey, Estonia, Slovenia, Slovak Republic.
Free college tuition existed in public colleges and universities in the US from its beginning. Still does in a few small private colleges (but with a work requirement). All military academies are still tuition-free.
How else ...more
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 7, 19 10:35 AM
This President has improved the life situations of so many Americans. I just read where 6.2 million are no longer on public assistance, and are proud to be earning and contributing. This is the legacy of tax cutting, regulation slashing, probusiness policy advancing of the economy. It works. It produces. It advances, and it uplifts. I always enjoyed working and making money.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 9, 19 7:44 AM
Did 6.2 million choose to stop receiving public assistance, or were they denied it?

That would probably impact whether it's a good thing or not.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 9, 19 4:21 PM
Ah, yes. Closing loopholes is only good when it comes to guns.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 10:24 AM
Reducing the number of people who receive benefits by changing the rules for who is eligible is not the same thing as closing loopholes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 11:09 AM
Enforcing the rules to qualify that were waived isn't the same as changing the rules. It is however, a loophole that had been created.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 2:02 PM
Choosing to enforce rules that weren't enforced before is changing the rules.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 4:17 PM
Enforcing the rules that were chosen to not be enforced is simply enforcing the rules.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 1:59 AM
Picking which rules are and aren't enforced is changing the rules, please be specific though.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 4:45 AM
No. It's going back to rules that were once enforced. Same rules then. same rules now.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:17 PM
But different rules than were previously enforced, aka changing the rules. Still not hearing your specifics, though.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:26 PM
No, the same rules that were previousy enforced.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:28 PM
They were changed once and now they've been changed back, right?

Operative word being "changed"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:31 PM
Nope. They were not enforced as a policy decision. They've however always been there.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:40 PM
Nah, enforcing rules that weren't enforced before is changing the rules.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:57 PM
Nah, enforcing rules that weren't enforced before is changing the rules.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:58 PM
Nah, returning to rules that were once enforced isn't changing the rules.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 1:03 PM
Return means going back to meaning change.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 4:48 PM
Not necessarily in terms of "change." It just means go back to what was always there in the first place. Enforcing rules to qualify that had been waived isn't the same as changing the rules. It is reverting back to rules that always existed, and in this case, closing loopholes to qualify that had been created, aka, waivers for work requirements for food stamps that led to the number of childless adults on food stamps doubling.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:27 AM
Seems like a long-winded way of saying a change in the rules is not a change in the rulea, but don't let me stop you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 8:31 AM
No, it's simply saying reverting to the original policy. Not changing to a new one.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 12:09 PM
Yeah, call it return, revert, etc., but it's still changing the rules.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 12:21 PM
Nope. It's reverting to the same rules and reflects a policy shift.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 2:43 PM
Yeah, changing what rules apply is still changing the rules.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 2:51 PM
Nope, changing the rules from what they originally were, is changing the rules. Going back to the original, is reverting.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 4:58 PM
Yeah, that's called a change.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 5:26 PM
Change was what occured FROM the original regulation. Back to the original form is reverting to the original regulation.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 5:53 PM
In other words, there were two changes. Ch-ch-ch-changes!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 6:05 PM
Nope.

If you have policy XYZ.
And then you make XYZ into XY. That's a change.
Returning it to XYZ is reverting.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 12:09 PM
I see two changes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 12:30 PM
Check your eyes.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 12:54 PM
Check your work: one change is from XYZ to XY, and the next is from XY to XYZ.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:03 PM
Yep, one change. One reverting back

= one change. Two policy rules.


By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:22 PM
Yup, two changes to the rules.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:25 PM
Nope. One. Two originals. One change.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:52 PM
1. XYZ->XY
2. XY->XYZ
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:54 PM
XYZ
XY
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 3:38 PM
That implies we're at XY right now, when we both know perfectly well it was changed back to XYZ.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 4:12 PM
Waiving 1996 work requirements for food stamps

Not waiving 1996 work requirements for food stamps
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 16, 19 9:50 AM
Yes, to waive or not waive is a rule change.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 10:04 AM
Nope, two scenarios. One produced less enrollees. The other encouraged more enrollees.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 8:38 AM
And regardless of whether they resulted in more or less enrollees, they're both changes to the rule.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 9:33 AM
No regardless about it...that's fact....and two scenarios.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:25 AM
Yes, two scenarios where rules were changed.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:37 AM
Nope, one scenario where the 1996 work requirements for food stamps rule was changed, and it added millions to the rolls and one where the rules were reverted back, that removed millions from the rolls.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:42 AM
Nah, two rules changes with different effects.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:44 AM
Nah, one rule change with predictable effects.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:57 AM
Two rule changes, reflected by proposed rule changes in the Federal Register and applied to 7 CFR § 273.7.

I think you're referring exclusively to legislation passed by Congress as "rules" but the fact is that administrative rules are separate and distinct, and executive agencies engage in rule-making all the time.

If you want to continue this conversation, please do a little bit of reading on what an administrative rule means.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 12:10 PM
No duh agencies engage in rule-making all the time.

You first brought up rules..."by changing the rules for who is eligible."

But...The changing of the "rules" for how is eligible by the Obama administration, didn't undergo a rule-making change now did it. Neither did the reverting to the original "rules," right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 8:45 AM
Yes, they were both official rules changes published in the federal register.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 9:29 AM
It change the "rules" (noun), not the rules (verb).
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 10:54 AM
Thanks! They were still both official rule changes published in the Federal Register, and official rules applied to the Code of Federal Regulations.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 11:00 AM
Monday, June 17, 2019

With unemployment for black Americans at an historic low, voters continue to believe President Trump has been better for young blacks than President Obama.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 33% of Likely U.S. Voters think life for young black Americans has gotten better since Trump’s election.

By comparison, in July 2016, Obama’s final year in office, just 13% said life for young black Americans ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 6, 19 1:31 PM
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Joe, read the editorial about the Trump cost visit... Never noticed any editorials when the famous Clintons visited so many time and never saw a cost factor.
The editorial seems slanted? Can we get comparisons of ALL the trips and costs???
By knitter (1866), Southampton on Sep 6, 19 2:08 PM
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By knitter (1866), Southampton on Sep 6, 19 2:08 PM
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Former Vice President Me Too Joe Biden was rebuffed after trying to grab the hands of a younger woman in Iowa earlier this week, while talking to her about his candidacy.

Biden, who was publicly accused by several women of unwanted touching earlier this year, had the awkward encounter on Monday while courting voters at a Labor Day picnic put on by organized labor in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

Video of the incident, which was published by the Washington Examiner on Friday,

ROLF ...more
Sep 6, 19 6:23 PM appended by Ditch Bum
GRAB HER BY THE PINKY JOE ! LOL
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 6, 19 6:23 PM
Quote:

"So, on Sept. 1, Trump tweets that, ' ... Alabama ... will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.' This is false, and immediately contradicted by the National Weather Service (whose personnel have yet to be replaced by Trump loyalists.)" - By highhatsize (4139), East Quogue on Sep 6, 19 9:00 AM
----------------------------

"NOAA backs Trump on Alabama hurricane forecast, rebukes Weather Service for accurately contradicting him"
by Jason Samenow, Andrew ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 7, 19 12:25 PM
This week starts the NFL’s 100th season, but some teams seem to still be finding a awful lot of empty seats.

I will never again in my lifetime support the anti-American NFL, seats are empty because Americans are tired of being crapped on by parasites, and being ridiculed for being Patriots! And not the team, but American Patriots.
They want Americans to support them? Then they better start acting like real Americans, and not spoiled childish "victims" of some crap from over 150 ...more
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 9, 19 1:39 AM
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Football is back? Thanks for the reminder Ditch! I know you follow the NFL closely from how much you talk about it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 9, 19 6:32 AM
Ditch bum, some crap that happened 150 years ago? Foolish is the only way to describe your comment. Keep being consistent.
“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”

By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 9, 19 5:21 AM
90,000 in Dallas, Meadowlands full house, yup they're really suffering. Nobody cares about your worthless opinions.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Sep 9, 19 6:06 AM
EverBank Field, the Jacksonville Jaguars also found a horde of empty seats when the lost big to the Kansas City Chiefs 40-26:

Hard Rock Stadium has a lot of empty seats for the Miami Dolphins season opener, Miami Fans Didn't Show up for Dolphins Season Opener

There's nobody in Charlotte to watch Rams/Panthers - even FEWER in Miami to watch Ravens/Dolphins I mean empty seats everywhere you look WTH's going on? This isn't the pre-season is it? Is it too hot outside? People finally ...more
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 9, 19 7:43 AM
They have screwed up royally, just like the Leftists. They just keep on doubling down, lying, deceiving, and laughing in our faces. After 2020, they are going to know full well just how much they have insulted the working, producing, flag waving Patriots.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 9, 19 9:56 AM
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The NFL is more popualr than ever. I don't think your boycott is working.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 9, 19 10:00 AM
"...but some teams seem to still be finding a awful lot of empty seats."
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 9, 19 12:37 PM
And it serves them right ! I hope the league goes bankrupt and these spoiled nasty S O Bs have to go get work at whatever else they are qualified to do, maybe McDonald's
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 9, 19 12:45 PM
Attendance looks fine to me, but why take my word for it?

Check it out for yourself: espn.com/nfl/attendance
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 9, 19 12:54 PM
Maybe the orange orangutan can give one more tax cut before he leaves office in fourteen months, to the Johnson's and Mara's. They really could use it!! Ha-ha, such dumbass dolts believing Don the con is on your side!! Ha-ha
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Sep 9, 19 2:01 PM
"Attendance looks fine to me"

LMAO...attendance looks fine to you? Dallas was 90% to capacity. Jacksonville and Tampa Bay in the 80's.

At $10 a hotdog and $15 a beer, you do the math on the lost revenue.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 9, 19 3:48 PM
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Looks to me like some teams were up in week 1 on their average attendance from last year and some teams were down. Will there be a decrease in the average attendance at the end of the season compared to last year? Maybe.

After all there was a decrease in average attendance around the league from 2017 to 2018...of a measly 365 people.

Anyway, I don't get paid to worry about whether Jerry Jones makes money, I'll just point out that a 0.55% decrease in average attendance from 2017 ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 9, 19 4:17 PM
If nobody showed up, they make humongous money from T.V.. Don't you feel great, Agent Orange gave all the owners a tax cut. You are such a dumbass dolt if you believe Drumpf is for the little guy.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Sep 9, 19 4:22 PM
mets fan you sound so obviously partisan, the mueller report EXONERATED TRUMP!! he wasn’t charged. the report clearly stated no evidence of collusion. after a year plus long investigation our potus was not charged. don’t you think he would have charged our potus if he could? you seem to have other issues that you struggle with.
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 10, 19 7:00 AM
Nadler: "Does the special counsel's report exonerate the president?"

Mueller: "No."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 7:13 AM
@ Erin 27 E

Another true believer lie. False in its every particular. You lot habitually substitute FABRICATIONS for FACT with no regard for TRUTH whatsoever.

Mueller made NO FINDING on collusion and FOUND evidence of obstruction of justice - - - and he explicitly stated that the report DID NOT EXONERATE Trump.* It was not within Mueller's power to CHARGE Trump with anything, that right being constitutionally reserved to Congress.

Again I am puzzled why true believers ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 10, 19 7:54 AM
Mueller also explicitly stated:

We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the President did commit a crime.

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 10:18 AM
Exactly, Po. Not an exoneration. Thanks for making my point, hopefully Erin hears you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 11:00 AM
Exactly Fore. Not guilty. Glad to clear up your misunderstanding. Hear that Erin?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 1:58 PM
@ Po Boy

Your chronic dishonesty has sounded yet more abysmal depths.

Having taken note of Erin 27 E's multifarious lie, you apparently have decided that it needs topping up, and have added your own in embellishment.

"Exonerated", "innocent", and "not guilty" are NOT synonyms, Po Boy, your determined conflation notwithstanding (as a check of a dictionary will substantiate.)

But then, as has already been noted, the unwholesome joy that you take from the fabrication ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 10, 19 3:25 PM
Is "not guilty" equivalent to "exoneration"? I don't think so.

For example, OJ is not guilty of murdering his wife, but not exonerated of having killed her.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 4:25 PM
TRUMP WON ! THE PEOPLE WON ! CANKLES LOST BIGLY !

TRUMP 2020 !
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 10, 19 5:02 PM
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"...the mueller report EXONERATED TRUMP!!"

"If We Had Confidence That the President Clearly Did Not Commit a Crime, We Would Have Said So"

~ Muller report

The vacuous vacancy of a right wing mind...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 12, 19 5:16 PM
Google and Facebook feeing the heat this morning on censorship and anti trust ... excellent and long overdue!
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 9, 19 9:51 AM
If you think Google has a monopoly you must have never heard of Yahoo.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 9, 19 9:59 AM
They call me, thanks for posting a pic of yourself as your avatar. In drag? If that’s what you’re into.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 9, 19 10:04 AM
Every single one of your comments is a daily drag.
Sep 9, 19 10:09 AM appended by themarlinspike
AND ..... you've unveiled quite a loud prejudice there. Nothing else you have to say again is worthwhile.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 9, 19 10:09 AM
GOOGLE FACES 50 PROBES
'MONOPOLISTIC BEHAVIOR' 50 US states and territories launch antitrust probe into Google’s ‘potential monopolistic behavior’
September 9, 2019 at 12:53 pm

Google's dominant position comes with great responsibility to ensure equal treatment and fairness. It doesn't take much to determine if they are wandering off that path. If that is not a concern to them, legal and regulatory action will be the result.
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 9, 19 6:04 PM
Yep, greatest country on Earth...


‘UVA has ruined us’: Health system sues thousands of patients, seizing paychecks and putting liens on homes

Jay Hancock, Elizabeth Lucas 54 mins ago

The $164,000 billed to Waldron for intestinal surgery was more than twice what a commercial insurer would have paid for her care, according to benefits firm WellRithms, which analyzed bills for Kaiser Health News using cost reports UVA files with the government. Charges on ...more
Sep 9, 19 7:29 PM appended by Mr. Z
The medical center, the flagship of UVA Health System, earned $554 million in profit over the six years ending June 2018, and holds stocks, bonds and other investments worth $1 billion, according to financial statements. CEO Sutton-Wallace makes $750,000, with bonus incentives that could push her annual pay close to $1 million, according to a copy of her employment contract, obtained under public information law.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 9, 19 7:29 PM
Colin Kapernick must be sooo proud!!!!
He took a knee and destroyed the NFL!!!Being Anti America HAS consequences. .....should be easy to grasp.

Isn’t that a shame pretty soon they aren’t going to be able to make payroll to all those ignorant loudmouth kneelers! Well at least they have their degrees! There plenty of jobs flipping burgers!
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 7:07 AM
The NFL is destroyed? Is this like when Trump claims the NY Times is failing?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 7:16 AM
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Naah, the NYT is more like declining. Some might call it failing though. They will always sell subscriptions to those who lap up the daily re-education lesson. The NFL on the otherhand has soured many fans in how they handled the anti-American Kapernick debacle. That won't be fixed so easily.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 10:14 AM
So is the NFL destroyed, Po?

I'll let the Jones, Mara, or Kraft families worry about their own money, but I just don't see it.

The product is as popular as ever from where I'm standing.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 10:43 AM
oooh..."the product." I see...

Opening day attendance for two division east rivals at 90% attendance... attendance down 1.9% last year...the 2018 regular season saw average attendance at 67,100, the lowest average since 2011....confirms...naah, it's certainly NOT as popular as ever.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 1:53 PM
See what?

Yes, it was also a whole 365 people lower than 2017, and yet revenue is higher than ever, and team valuations are equally rising.

Keep forecasting doom and gloom, though. It's pretty funny from where I'm standing.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 10, 19 4:04 PM
Panem et circenses...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 11, 19 12:31 AM
"The product is as popular as ever from where I'm standing."

Opening day attendance for two division east rivals at 90% attendance... attendance down 1.9% last year...the 2018 regular season saw average attendance at 67,100, the lowest average since 2011....confirms...naah, it's certainly NOT as popular as ever.


By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 1:56 AM
Are people in the stands your only measure of popularity? You're also comparing the averages from a full year to the opening day numbers.

It's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison, but feel free to draw whatever inferences you find reasonable.

I don't foresee the league folding in either of our lifetimes anyway.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 4:44 AM
People in the stands is certainly a very good measure of popularity. Actuall, I've compared THREE data points...1) opening day 2) overall attendance last year and 3) trend since 2011 - with attendance last year the LOWEST since 2011.

That indictes the product is NOT as popular as ever.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:14 PM
Yet you're ignoring another important measure: the money the league makes

I wonder why? Could it be that record-high revenues refute your assertion of decreased popularity?

Is the NFL destroyed, Po?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:29 PM
Revenues have no bearing on popularity. It simply means those who continue to watch or whatever, are willing to pay (higher?) prices. Most of the revenue comes from TV contracts, which means, networks are willing to pay more for the contract to do so. How is that an indicator of popularity when viewership is DOWN?

I beleive I said, "The NFL on the otherhand has soured many fans in how they handled the anti-American Kapernick debacle. That won't be fixed so easily."



By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 12:39 PM
You jumped from attendance to viewership. Can you support your belief that viewership is down as well?

Revenue may not paint a complete picture (just like...you guessed it! Attendance!) but surely it gives you some impression of popularity...businesses pulling in billions aren't usually destroyed, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 12:54 PM
You introduced revenue. It's not a jump from there, but a stepping stone.

Sure, google NFL viewership. It's comon knowledge if you're paying attention. Or, better yet....take a guess why it's being said the NFL is "destroyed."

Revenue gives ZERO indication of popularity. That simply tells you someone is willing to make a business decision that they think it will be profitable because they sell commercials during the games which is how THEY make money, NOT that the NFL is popular.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 1:02 PM
Revenue gives ZERO indication of popularity?

Doesn't more popular adspace demand higher fees?

You're a riot, Po.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 9:54 PM
How can ad space be "more popular" in an atmosphere of declining viewership?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:17 AM
Why would I answer your questions if you won't answer mine?

Are you standing by your view that revenue gives ZERO indication of popularity?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 8:23 AM
What do you think?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:31 AM
I think you made a stupid assertion that the money a business brings in doesn't have any bearing on its popularity, especially when that business leads all other competitors in revenue by leaps and bounds.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 8:36 AM
I think you made a stupid assertion discounting other indicators of popularity by focusing solely on revenue, and now comparing it to other competitors when there is no commonality to different business'.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:40 AM
I don't think I discounted any factors, just pointed to others which provide additional context.

Why don't you want to look at the full picture? Are you still standing by your view that revenue has ZERO bearing on popularity? Does that have to do with the fact that, by that measure, the NFL is more popular than all other professional sports leagues in the US?

Is the NFL destroyed yet?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 8:47 AM
I am looking at the full picture, in fact, I even commented on it all aspects.

Why do you discount the full picture that shows viewership and attendance is down - looking at "by that measure" only revenue? Revenue is not a measure of popularity. Revenue is a measure of profitability.

Did I say the NFL is destroyed?



By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 12:05 PM
I don't think I discount that viewership is down, or that average attendance on opening weekend (aka at only half the stadiums) was lower than the average attendance at all stadiums last season.

I do think you paint an incomplete picture, and support that by pointing out that the league's revenue are higher than ever and the average attendance in 2017 to 2018 only dropped by a paltry 365 fans.

If you think revenue has zero bearing on popularity I think that's a stupid view, but ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 12:28 PM
What part of the picture hasn't been addressed?

Conversely, you repeat the fallacy (because it's convenient for your point, and puts YOUR argument in an incomplete light) "I also think it's stupid to put too much stock in a single week's games..." when (third time now) I've pointed to viewership being down not only last year, but that last year was the lowest since 2011.

If you want season long statistics, look at last year as I've (three times now) provided. 2018 was the lowest ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 2:34 PM
The National Football League's overall attendance was down in 2018 by 1.9 percent - 33.8 million from 34.5 million in 2017.

"Is the NFL destroyed yet?"

Did I say the NFL is destroyed?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 2:41 PM
For one thing, you deny that revenue is even part of the picture.

Is it a fallacy to point out that you're partly hanging your hat on one week of games?

I don't have the numbers in front of me right now, but assuming the raw number average attendance was indeed down in 2018 compared to 2017, how do you explain that, on average, stadiums were more filled in 2018 (95.94%)than 2017 (95.3%)?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 2:47 PM
Never said revenue wasn't (even) part of the picture.

LOL, now it's "partly hanging your hat on one week of games." Ok, progress. No, it's fallacy to insist multiple points of data have have no bearing while insisting only one does.

You want me to explain something that's not true? Attenance was down in 2017 compared to 2018 and average attendance 67,405 in 2017 and 67,042 in 2018 (statista). How do you explain popularity is up when attendance is down?

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 4:45 PM
I use the ESPN numbers myself, and it's true that, on average, stadiums were more filled in 2018 (95.94%)than 2017 (95.3%), even though the average attendance was down by just 365 people.

Maybe there was less seating available in 2018 than 2017? Don't know, and don't care, just pointing out the facts, like how you made a claim that revenue has "ZERO" bearing on popularity but apparently now agree that it's part of the picture.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 5:31 PM
LOL, nope, don't agree they were then, don't agree now. First I pointed out that your paraphrasing about what I said about revenue wasn't what I said. Now, you've corrected youself to state what I did say. Glad you're back on track.

"Maybe"..."If that's true?" LMAO...you don't even know.

Uh, the ESPN data doesn't give "on average" does it? Only by team.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 5:50 PM
You can't figure out the average on your own? It's just a little math, Po.

Add the percentages and divide by 32. Too much work?

So is revenue part of the picture, or isn't it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 6:04 PM
Not the popularity picture, it isn't.

Yeah, well, your math doesn't add up on multiple counts.

Where did I say the NFL was destroyed?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 12:06 PM
If revenue isn't part of the popularity picture, then what picture is it part of? The success picture?

Just add up the percentages up and divide by 32, Po.

It's a very simple calculation and if that's too hard, the computer will even do it for you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 12:30 PM
You're asking the same questions addressed above.

Yeah, well, your math doesn't add up on multiple counts. The National Football League's overall attendance was down in 2018 by 1.9 percent - 33.8 million from 34.5 million in 2017.

Where did I say the NFL was destroyed?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:03 PM
If attendance is down in raw numbers but stadiums are more filled as a percentage of capacity, what does that tell us?

C'mon Po, think hard, you almost got this!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:06 PM
Less people are attending!

Bravo!! You're on to something!!
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:11 PM
Yet the stadiums are filled closer to capacity, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:13 PM
Not with attendance down, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:52 PM
That sounds like an assumption that capacity was the same in 2017 and 2018, and you know what they say happens when you assume.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:55 PM
Capacity generally has nothing to do with overall attendance. You'd know it if you looked at the numbers that sometimes capacity in any one stadium is over 100%.

But since you asked, the newest stadium was opened in Atlanta in 2017 and has a capacity of 71,000. The former held 60,606. So you see, that explains the increase you claim, hmmmm???
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 4:13 PM
Does it? If you think about it, for the average attendance at one stadium to drop but the percentage of capacity it represents to increase, then the capacity would have to drop, not rise.

I think the answer is simpler, though: measuring the average percentage that all 32 stadiums are filled to weighs every stadium equally, whereas the raw attendance numbers give greater weight to larger stadiums and less weight to smaller stadiums.

For example, lets say a 10,000 capacity stadium ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 4:48 PM
Yeah, no kiddin' the picture isn't so cut and clear one way or the other. That's what I've been saying. All I said was the NFL soured many fans in how they handled the anti-American Kapernick debacle and it wouldn't be fixed so easily.

Why won't you point out to me where I said the NFL is destroyed?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 16, 19 9:42 AM
You responded to my comment questioning that view in apparent defense of it. I'm glad we agree the picture isn't so cut and clear one way or the other.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 9:59 AM
Yea, that's what I've been saying. All I said was the NFL soured many fans in how they handled the anti-American Kapernick debacle and it wouldn't be fixed so easily. You responded to my comment stating a simple fact.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 8:36 AM
Great! Did you see that one-handed catch yesterday?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 9:35 AM
Was there football on? They'll need more than one handed catches to bring back the soured fans.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:22 AM
All 365 of them? I'm sure every owner laments the losses.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:43 AM
That's right, the 365 fans across the US (on average) who are soured and not the 1.9 percent - 33.8 million in 2018 from 34.5 million in 2017.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:52 AM
Yes, I'm sure the owners are as sour about them as they are about the folks boycotting because Kapernick doesn't have a job.

Playing the world's sadest song on a tiny, gold-plated violin, I bet.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:57 AM
Oh, the owners are concerned alright about dropping attendance. It's why they take such great care in shopping for new markets. Los Angeles spent two decades without a team, then, within the span of 12 months, not one but two teams announced that they would move to L.A.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 12:03 PM
Uh huh, let's talk at the end of the season, bud.

Then we can check up with Ditch on whether the NFL is "destroyed" yet.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 12:12 PM
Ditch can’t answer right now. He was burning his Nike’s, and caught the garage on fire!
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 17, 19 12:20 PM
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While we're at it we can check on the NFL's status and the long lasting effect of the Kaepernick debacle.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 8:36 AM
NFL HELL: Ticket Prices Fall To $10 As Teams Struggle To Fill Stadiums
THE DAILYWIRE

You can get a ticket to a Buffalo Bills game for the price of a cup of coffee

The NFL protests have been lucrative for social justice charities — they'll receive a whopping $89 million in "settlement" money, redirected from veterans and breast cancer charity funds

It turns out, if you can still stomach a professional football game, you can now get tickets for about the same ...more
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 10, 19 5:17 PM
NFL was once as American as apple pie.
It is now a symbol of what the alt left ideologies and Radical Islamo-Facism can do to something that was once a pure joy for Americans .

Their satanic fruit is everywhere and we it to our country to stand up to this evil.

I am not sure if we can cure the NFL from Colin Cancer, but we can fight back! MSM, Schools, Universities and Hollywood next.
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 10, 19 5:23 PM
Bills have been in the play-offs once in eighteen years, last play-off win twenty three years ago. Cities are dying for a chance at an NFL franchise. Why don't you quote Meadowlands prices. No problem there for wealthy Johnson and Maras. Besides, Agent oranges tax cut gives them ten fold more money any way. Concussions are more of a problem than a protester willing to sacrifice his money and celebrity for a cause, which you have never had to experience.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Sep 10, 19 5:51 PM
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Ditch bum and they call me, for two people over the nfl, you sure talk about it enough. Move on
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 10, 19 6:34 PM
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Boy
I
Love
Losing
Super Bowls
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 11, 19 12:35 AM
FARK off:


Hillary Clinton gets a whopping 86% of Sean Hannity's time and 100% rent free living in his head
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 11, 19 12:39 AM
P.S.

Five National Security Advisors in three years.

Even the Egyptians found the search for primes a better endeavor...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 11, 19 12:46 AM
"Some people did somethig"

~Rep. Ilhan Omar

Yeah, they got into their rig, they drove to the towers, and they got killed trying to save others.

NEVER forget.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 9:04 AM
.... Never will
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 11, 19 12:25 PM
Omar has not once condemned the actions of “ those people” nor praised the greatness of America. Thank God we elected a REAL President the best president in history - May God Bless America!
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 11, 19 12:42 PM
God bless those lost on 9/11 and those who participated in today's ceremonies at the White House and across the nation today.We must never forget that they gave everything they had for our freedoms we have today.We must never let the 'left', the swamp, or "some people" (radical trash) take it away.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 11, 19 1:16 PM
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fox news payed respects to the 9/11 victims
this morning while msnbc continued it's non-stop hate campaign... god bless president trump and his deep patriotism and love for america
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 11, 19 1:30 PM
So now you're a professional media monitor?
If you were so busy being enthralled with whatever Fox was doing, how do you know what was airing on MSNBC?
This is untrue.
How is your nose not ten feet long?

By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 11, 19 1:46 PM
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I did not claim to be a professional anything, i just like to keep my eye on things and get different perspectives, the three of you should try it. what are you afraid of, it just may do you some good.
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 11, 19 5:19 PM
Who said you claimed to be "a professional anything"?
Your "eye on things"? Well, how about since you're so vigilant you tell us how your idol lied yet again to the American people--uh, the world-- from the podium at the Pentagon this morning claiming that he went immediately to the Twin Towers with his "men" (said "100 with 125 more to follow" on a prior occasion) to "help". (His organization has been documented to have consisted of only dozens at the time, and the retired deputy ...more
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 11, 19 6:02 PM
Erin you are right to watch news from all sources. Others could learn a lot from you. If you only watch news sites that tell you what you want to hear you stay comfortably ignorant of all the facts.

It was confirmed that radical Muslims in New Jersey did celebrate the 9/11 terror attacks during rooftop and street parties until they were broken up by the cops, in a report made by Jersey City police .

There were at least two celebrations and likely more, with men shouting “Allahu ...more
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 11, 19 7:18 PM
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Please cite your sources, thanks.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 7:35 PM
Looks like he did, Jersey City police , Jersey City police Capt. Peter Gallagher, The New York Post and NJ.com. I would like to say I also ( for real !) remember the reports from the radio the day of... then they just mysteriously disappeared. Imagine that .
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 11, 19 7:46 PM
Please stop already Fore1 and June. be careful what you say! Just what is it you are just coming short of defending hear tonight. It's not a good look defending these monsters !
By local 84 (343), riverhead on Sep 11, 19 7:52 PM
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Note what's missing: article names and dates.

Could it be because those two articles were written in 2015 and don't include any evidence of such a police report?

Also (for real!) I don't believe you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 7:54 PM
Yes, good to consume diverse news sources. But Fox is merely trump's propaganda arm and the last one worthy of citation. As for those thousands of cheering Muslims, nice try. There's the perfect example of fake news.

"Trump said he "watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.
This defies basic logic. If thousands and thousands of people were celebrating the 9/11 attacks on American soil, many ...more
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 11, 19 8:05 PM
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Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop, one of many politicians who blasted Trump after the remarks, still denied that celebrations took place despite the eyewitness accounts.

“There are no records of this, and over time, what has happened is that it has become urban legend in many cities where people say they heard or saw something,” Fulop told the website.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 11, 19 8:28 PM
On September 17th 2001, Hillary told Jane Pauley on NBC’s dateline that Chelsea had gone on “what she thought would be a great jog” and that she was going to go around the towers. She followed this with, “and then the plane hit,” leaving the impression that Chelsea was jogging downtown at the time of the collision.

In November, 2001, Chelsea wrote an article in the now-defunct Talk magazine about the day’s experience, ...Chelsea doesn’t mention ...more
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:15 AM
Yes, and?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 8:20 AM
The great patriot who had his father lean on a renter to write him up a phony medical report to get out of the draft. Yup, that's some great patriot, General Bone Spurs!
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Sep 11, 19 2:01 PM
IMO, Omar is a lying jihadist trying to deceive people with her statement pursuant to her religious tenets. She is openly an ISIS sympathizer. Always has been. ISIS teaches a concept called Taqiyya which makes lying OK if it advances the Muslim cause. Quran 3:28 . Sharia is a political ideology, There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that orthodox Islamic teachings are in line with what we call “radical Islam.” The leader of “moderate Muslims” in Europe, Fahad Qureshi, ...more
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 7:31 PM
Please cite your sources, thanks.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 7:34 PM
"Some people did something" on 9-11: HER FELLOW RADICAL MUSLIMS! Omar has yet to denounce radical Islam. what about you Bug ?
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 11, 19 7:37 PM
I was in the city that morning and the hurt and the pain of what was done that day will never go away... It should not be used for political gain and is something we all should never forget and pray never happens again.
By local 84 (343), riverhead on Sep 11, 19 7:56 PM
That's not a source.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 7:57 PM
Sources ? Sources ? You stand hear on this day and have the gall to ask for sources ?

We don't need sources . We all lived though it. Despicable !
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 11, 19 8:04 PM
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No more source citations? Good to know.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 11, 19 8:09 PM
Yes, Dan. 9/11 is not a good reason to lie.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 9:58 PM
Why is it that Mets, June, Mr Z and Fore/ Fred seem annoyed the Americans remember that "some people did something"

At least High Hat so far has had the common sense to know he should keep his mouth shut today!

But not to worry he will be back tomorrow armed with his Floccinaucinihilipilificatious vocablulary.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 11, 19 8:46 PM
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or maybe he is just at a C A I R fund raiser event at a N.J. roof top bar tonight
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 11, 19 8:54 PM
Why is it you conjure up a fact-free assertion and follow it with a stupid question?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 11, 19 9:33 PM
I'm only annoyed by the lies of Erin, Joe, Ditch, TCM, and 27dan, and neither their lies nor my reaction is unique to 9/11.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 10:04 PM
Maybe Erin 27 E with her vigilant eyes saw this little sugar plum today. trump is in the oval office with Melania there b/c she's verklempt over the 5 deaths caused by e-cigarettes, and he actually says, "The first lady...she has a son." Then quickly adds the word "together". Freudian slip? Alzheimer's? And did he forget his wife's name? And vaping-- the scourge so bad it has to be dealt with at the highest level of government. Hey Melania, open your piehole instead about climate, the ...more
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 11, 19 10:35 PM
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I'm confident all of Trump's children will be able to afford mitigation for the effects of climate change.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 11, 19 10:45 PM
You mean like relocating to the moon?
Can't make out your avatar. What is it?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 11, 19 11:12 PM
Buying flood insurance, homes at higher elevations, air filtration systems, etc. etc. etc.

The effects of climate change will hit us gradually, and money will allow many to stay ahead of the curve, at least at the beginning.

I call my avatar "a fish out of water" and I'll let you guess which of our fellow users it represents.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 6:35 AM
"18 years have passed since airplanes took aim and brought down the World Trade Center.“

~ NYT
9/11/2019
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 12, 19 5:56 AM
That quote shows more anti American sentiment from the rag of record. MUSLIM TERRORISTS took down the towers using planes as weapons.
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 12, 19 6:46 AM
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Seems like a dumb thing to throw a hissy fit about, but melt away little snowflake.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 7:02 AM
Veiled attempts to rug sweep who did what on 9/11.

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:05 AM
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Is anyone under the impression the planes steered themselves into the twin towers?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 8:21 AM
Why not. They're apparently under the impression guns kill people all by themselves - well, except for when a police officer uses it in the line of duty - then, it is the cops fault.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:29 AM
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Is anyone under the impression guns shoot themselves?

Your straw men are ridiculous.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 8:33 AM
Great! I think you're coming around on the gun debate, and by default, the stupidity of the NYT's reference. BRAVO!
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:37 AM
How do you figure? I've long been of the opinion that there are way too many firearms in the wild for any legislation to have a meaningful effect on gun violence.

That doesn't change the fact that nobody is under the impression guns or planes operate themselves, and that pretending anyone actually thinks that makes you look stupid.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 8:42 AM
the 9-11 attacks were committed by MUSLIM TERRORISTS , not airplanes as their apologists at the NY Times stated.
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 12, 19 9:57 AM
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Is anyone under the impression the airplanes steered themselves?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 10:21 AM
Is anyone under the impression guns by themselves commit mass murder?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 11:58 AM
Nope, and pretending anyone is makes you look stupid.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 12:35 PM
Great! I think you're coming around on the gun debate, and by default, the stupidity of the NYT's reference. BRAVO!
By Po Boy (4813), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 8:37 AM
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 2:29 PM
Is there an echo in here?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 2:41 PM
You can't have it both ways...ways.. ways... ways...
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 2:42 PM
What ways?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 2:54 PM
Wait, did you refer to the rug sweeping of who did what on 9/11 "a dumb thing?"
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 4:26 PM
More specifically, I referred to the characterization of "rug sweeping" as a dumb thing.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 4:30 PM
More specifically, you're lying.

The "dumb thing" statement (7:02 AM) was PRIOR to the "rug sweeping" reference (8:05 AM).

Why are you now lying?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 4:56 PM
Whether the "rug sweeping" term was used or not, what I called dumb was making a big deal out of the statement, whether by calling it un-American, rug sweeping, or pretending that the NYT was trying to say the planes steered themselves.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 5:22 PM
The statement the NY TImes made IS a big deal.

Just like "some people did something, "airplanes took aim" besides downplaying what transpired on 9/11, is factually INCORRECT. What, were they on autopilot? Maybe the pilots stabbed themselves?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 12, 19 5:35 PM
Is it? Seems like a matter of opinion.

Do you think the NYT was literally claiming the planes steered themselves?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 6:05 PM
Sure is.

It's a big deal because the NY Times steered clear of who steered the planes. Almost like it was written on September 11, 2001, before we knew it was Muslim terrorists.

Such a big deal in fact that they DELETED the tweet and edited the story for clarity.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 12:01 PM
Yes, I know lots of people gave them a hard time on social media.

I don't see it that way, personally. It's not like anyone actually thinks the planes steered themselves.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 12:26 PM
You put the "Fore" in Forgotten.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:01 PM
Wait, you don't the planes steered themselves, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:04 PM
Wait, you don't think guns shoot themselves, right?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:09 PM
Foregotten
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:09 PM
I don't think anybody thinks that, but I do think pretending anyone does makes you look stupid.

Thanks for the name-calling! That makes you look stupid too.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:12 PM
Foregotten isn't name calling.

Snowflake is name calling.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:51 PM
Nah, they're both name-calling, and I thank you for it.

It tells us more about you than you think!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:53 PM
Yeah, it tells us we got your number.

Stop Foregetting.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 4:15 PM
What's my number?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 4:20 PM
Zero
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 16, 19 9:39 AM
What's that mean? Careful now, I know you have an aversion to name-calling, lol.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 4:28 PM
What's my number?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7594), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 4:20 PM
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 8:34 AM
The correct number is in fact zero.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 17, 19 8:38 AM
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The left are losing all the arguments.

Their only approach left is the emotional garbage, name calling, profanity and cheating !!! Disqus, Google, Twitter and all online media are gearing up for 2020 with a slow, barely noticeable censorship. A dry-run for full blown ghosting of conservatives.Using similar or exactly same algorithms across all platforms. Totalitarianism. Silicon Valley style. They have adopted a default setting to revert to accusing those they disagree with of being a racist, ...more
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 12, 19 9:27 AM
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Hey Joe, where'd you lift this from? And where are all the frogs on your side who insist on citations from the rest of us?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 12, 19 7:56 PM
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By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 12, 19 9:43 AM
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By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 12, 19 10:22 AM
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You like name-calling?
Why does that not surprise me?
Get a subscription.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 12, 19 10:30 AM
That's the problem with right wingers. They'll project, then whine, cry, and point like a bully who got his/her a** kicked when it happens. All the nasty, bigoted slurs were OK when it was in reference to Obama. But, Trump can't have a nickname he truly earned, like Prevaricator in Chief.

Sad...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 12, 19 6:11 PM
Your statement on "projection" is "bass ackwards " !!!!!!!!!!!
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 13, 19 8:06 AM
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Whining about others who you think are whining is, by definition, projection. You're 1/1024th self aware.
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 13, 19 8:26 AM
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Whining about others who you think are whining is, by definition, projection. You're 1/1024th self aware.
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 13, 19 8:26 AM
Winning? More like L-O-S-E-R.

Trump’s trade war has killed 300,000 jobs

Rick Newman
Senior Columnist
Yahoo Finance September 10, 2019

Forecasting firm Moody’s Analytics estimates that Trump’s trade war with China has already reduced U.S. employment by 300,000 jobs, compared with likely employment levels absent the trade war. That’s a combination of jobs eliminated by firms struggling with tariffs and other elements of the trade war, and ...more
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 12, 19 6:16 PM
Mr Z is a fan of Chinese money manipulation
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 13, 19 7:28 AM
And 27dan is a fan of losing on trade.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 10:47 AM
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Protectionist in Chief...

Trump says U.S. should start manipulating the dollar
Trump on Wednesday accused China and Europe of playing a "big currency manipulation game," but doing so would directly contradict official U.S. policy.

By Martin Crutsinger, AP
Sep 15, 19 9:30 AM appended by Mr. Z
And the LIES keep on coming: ***As a candidate in 2016, Trump repeatedly charged that China was manipulating its currency and as president he would immediately label China as a currency manipulator. However, after taking office, Trump’s Treasury Department has issued five reports on the subject, required by law every six months. In each report it said no country met the criteria to be labeled a currency manipulator.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 15, 19 9:30 AM
27dan, see how mr.z used citations to back up his point. Could you post a citation to back up yours? We will wait, to eternity.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 13, 19 7:36 AM
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By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 13, 19 9:09 AM
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By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 14, 19 7:43 AM
People who have never written a term paper or utilized a bibliography don't know how that works Fred. Ignorant, dumb, and lazy is no way to go through life, but people do it anyway...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 7:35 PM
- - - Biden falling apart film at 11 - - -

Biden added nine embarrassing moments to his ever-expanding list of campaign gaffes and blunders during the third 2020 Democrat debate in Houston, Texas, Thursday evening.
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 13, 19 10:24 AM
The Dems corupt superdelegate system will hand this nomination to Biden no matter how bad he gaffs.
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 13, 19 10:31 AM
Ha, as if the whole world isn't alarmed over the mental state of your idol.
"Covfefe" anyone? "Tim Apple"? "The First Lady, she has a son...
together".
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 13, 19 11:09 AM
@27 dan: So sure of this, are you? Duly noted.
Your side is considering cancellation of primaries in 4 states to protect your boy and you're citing corruption? (Or, er "coruption".)
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 13, 19 11:20 AM
Why the man Trump once called "my African American" is leaving the GOP. PBS, September 12, 2019.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 10:43 AM
He sure ain't leaving to be a Democrat, is he?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 11:56 AM
I don't think I said he was.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 12:01 PM
Other than the obvious question, "who is he, anyway?" Further read is he's the guy who wants to run as an Independent after four failed GOP runs for Congress, isn't he?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 12:04 PM
I know him as the guy Trump referred to as "my African American"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 12:25 PM
Well if you know him, you'd also know candidate Trump referred to him as "the greatest."

You'd also know that the gentleman wasn't offended by the remark.

Who are you to tell anyone to be offended, if the recipient wasn't?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 12:59 PM
Did you read the part in the article where he said he views that exchange differently today than he did at the time?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:02 PM
Actually, he doesn't view the exchange different. He views other things differently, and that his opinion and right to do so. Countless other minorities would disagree.

Sounds more like he's just soured on getting 2% of the vote in a California election bid.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:08 PM
From the article:

"At the time, Cheadle took the president’s comments as a joke and laughed along with the president and the crowd of largely white supporters. Now, his view of that moment has changed. 'I’m more critical of it today than I was back then because today I wonder to what extent he said that for political gain or for attention,' he said."
Sep 13, 19 1:10 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Lol, what "countless other minorities"? Why is every minority who supports Trump tokenized if there are so many of them?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:10 PM
So he was ok with it, before he wasn't, and now he "wonders."

Ok. He's free to ponder. Do you think he also wonders what candidate Trump meant when he referred to him as "the greatest?"

He still sounds a bit sour. Either way, I wish him well on his fifth run for a California seat.
Sep 13, 19 1:33 PM appended by Po Boy
Lol, "Why is every minority who supports Trump tokenized if there are so many of them", says the guy tokenizing a minority.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:33 PM
Regarding being called "the greatest" I think he wonders "to what extent he said that for political gain or for attention."

I don't think you know what tokenism means.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:38 PM
Mr. Cheadle is free to wonder.

Right back at ya' on "tokenism," polls among minorities say otherwise however - something Democrats are scared sh*tless over.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 1:49 PM
Please cite your polls, thanks.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:54 PM
Feeding the baby in 3...2...1...

Why Trump’s Approval Ratings Are Up Among Minorities
Polls increasingly show they have improved dramatically in key voter blocs.
David Catron by DAVID CATRON
August 19, 2019, 12:05 AM
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 3:45 PM
What is Zogby's? Never heard of that polling firm, nor have I heard of "The American Spectator" though I notice they like to mix their fact and opinion.

Here's one I found on Google:

Poll: Trump approval rating drops among minorities after 'go back' remarks. The Hill, July 24, 2019.
Sep 13, 19 4:07 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I almost forgot, thanks again for the name-calling!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 4:07 PM
Yeah, mine was from August 2019.

WOMP WOMP
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 13, 19 4:14 PM
Seems pretty dumb to believe a poll from August somehow negates a poll from July, but here's one from September that puts Trump's approval rate with hispanics at less than half of what "Zogby's" thought it was:

Univision News poll: Democrats surge in Texas, no longer a safe state for Trump in 2020. Univision, September 10, 2019.

(and no, the poll from July doesn't negate the one from August either)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 4:25 PM
LOL...Univision...Never heard of that polling firm. Gee, you don't think some polls attempt to influence opinion, now, do ya'?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 16, 19 9:38 AM
You mean some people might take Univision as serious as others take "Zogby's"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 10:02 AM
I don't take any of them seriously. But hey....you asked...

Please cite your polls, thanks.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7581), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 13, 19 1:54 PM
Sep 16, 19 12:03 PM appended by Po Boy
….and the response was predictable. Yawn....
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 16, 19 12:03 PM
Oh good, so we agree Zogby's shouldn't be taken seriously.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 12:10 PM
Yet, it can't be discounted either, right? Remember 2016 election polling?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 8:33 AM
Whether it should or shouldn't be discounted sounds like a matter of opinion, I'm just glad we agree that Zogby's shouldn't be taken seriously.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 9:15 AM
Didn't I just say Zogby can't be discounted, either?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 9:22 AM
You also said they shouldn't be taken seriously, so which is it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 9:29 AM
Can't it be both?
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:12 AM
To discount something is to not take it seriously, so those two views would appear to be in direct conflict.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:21 AM
Naah, equally shared.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:23 AM
I discount your view. In other words, I don't take it seriously.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 11:46 AM
In fact, you discount it so little that you have to change it so often.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 11:55 AM
Who's trying to change your mind? Certainly not me.

You're so stubborn you're fighting with the dictionary!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 12:56 PM
Who said you were trying to change my mind?

By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 8:32 AM
"In fact, you discount [my view] so little that you have to change [my view] so often."

You did, granted that sentence was so convoluted you may have meant something completely different.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 8:35 AM
Apparently, right!?!

"In other words.…"
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 10:45 AM
Feel free to correct my understanding. English is just my second language.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 10:48 AM
I think that's what I'm doing. I'll type slower.
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 10:58 AM
Were you? In that case you failed.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 11:01 AM
Wait, they found some of the missing trillions of dollars printed during the past few decades!!

NY finds $1B in hidden transfers by family behind OxyContin

By ADAM GELLER
2 hours ago
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 14, 19 1:11 AM
Beto male is just saying what most of the Dems are thinking. They would love to totally remove the 2nd Amendment. Never ever surrender this right.....Proves the insane left have lost their minds....
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 14, 19 3:31 PM
The Democrats are constitutional shredding Communists. They would like nothing better then silencing your Freedom of Speech 1A and making you defenseless against a future Tyrannical Government 2A.

Everybody knows Now.. God Bless Trump for exposing them.

MAGA 2020

By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 14, 19 3:35 PM
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Democrat politicians didn’t want the public to know what Beto male admitted , they can only achieve their goal by incrementally chipping away at our Second Amendment rights. Seems to me that Democrat's who wish to confiscate guns may find that the only way to achieve there goals will be to take away the ammunition ONE BULLET AT A TIME!

TRUMP 2020!
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 14, 19 3:41 PM
27dan, I agree. Absurd statement by Beto. What does he expect mass murderers to use? An ak or ar is made for that. Beto is a kook.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 14, 19 4:18 PM
Thankfully more and more Americans are waking up to the lies they have been told by Democrats for generations. Those like Candace Owens who have been promoting the Blexit movement are making an impact. The Democrats are responsible and owe many Americans a huge apology for keeping them on the democrat plantation to this day. Funny that it took a our President that puts All Legal Americans First to break the chains of Slavery. Never have so many Americans been lifted from poverty to pride. As President ...more
Sep 14, 19 3:52 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
BLEXIT is a frequency for those who have released themselves from the political orthodoxy. It is a rebellion led by Americans wishing to disrupt the simulation of fear. BLEXIT is a renaissance. It is our formal declaration of independence.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 14, 19 3:52 PM
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Why the man Trump once called "my African American" is leaving the GOP. PBS, September 12, 2019.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 14, 19 4:22 PM
Ud, in one of your other posts you said you identify as just American, not a black American, not exact quote but pretty close. If that’s the case , why the posts about blexit? Seems to counter your previous thoughts.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 15, 19 8:53 AM
Fred seems to me UD stayed pretty consistent for his entire post never drawing a distinction between American and African American . BLEXIT is just a name that others have given a movement that UD seems to have no need for any longer. He seems to have moved beyond the need for such a crutch.
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 15, 19 4:31 PM
Joe, it’s a complete contradiction. Disavows then applauds, it doesn’t make sense.blexit was a name given the “move” by Candace Owens. His whole point is a contradiction, that’s all.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 15, 19 5:02 PM
UD is saying that he respects black people who consider their race an important part of their identity, but only if they agree with him politically.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 15, 19 5:11 PM
Fore, please do not speak to what you think i am saying.

What I am saying is that i respect all people equally.

Equally as one people and one Nation under god!

I respect all leagal Americans regardless of skin color or gender, because we all have the same rights under the constitution, "with liberty and justice for all" ring a bell ?

I respect all people regardless of race or gender until I hear their political leanings and then reserve the right to withdraw that ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 15, 19 7:59 PM
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good for you ud! i have nothing in common with people who view my conservative views as being racist. don’t need them in my life, period.
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 15, 19 8:15 PM
No ud, I respect everyone. You are the one advocating for blexit.to a weaker point you have of not respecting someone for their political opinion.your two sentences are in complete contradiction.im not injecting anything other then pointing out your hypocrisy.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 16, 19 5:07 AM
No ud, I respect everyone. You are the one advocating for blexit.to a weaker point you have of not respecting someone for their political opinion.your two sentences are in complete contradiction.im not injecting anything other then pointing out your hypocrisy.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 16, 19 5:08 AM
I have nothing in common with racist or racist apologists , two vile ways of thinking.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 16, 19 5:10 AM
I find it very funny that you equate my support of Candace Owens and her Blexit movement with lack of respect. Candice and or Blexit not deserving respect is your opinion ..... and the last time i checked you are still entitled to your own "personal" opinion, the same way other Americans of any color are entitled to personally agree with Candice Owens and or her Blexit movement. see no hypocrisy there, this is real easy stuff do try and keep up.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 16, 19 9:24 AM
Ud, thanks for the insult with your closing sentence. I’m keeping up. My statement had zero to with lack of respect. I was seeking clarification from you. You said you don’t identify with being called a black American, but you support a movement that is just that, black Americans leaving the Democratic Party. I don’t care what your beliefs are, it’s just a contradiction. That’s all.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 16, 19 9:43 AM
No insult just the way I feel, you calling me hypocritical was no worse, I was not a snow flake about that was I
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 16, 19 10:28 AM
You have a problem with people identifying as African Americans unless they agree with you politically, UD.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 10:33 AM
Seems to me that the man cannot make it any more clear for you ! He has a problem with people that have a uber liberal philosophy no matter what they Identify as.

Wow it is so obvious to people watching your exchange that you two are so thick in the head !

He never said that but you have tried and tried again to paint him into that box !

To hell with it UD why bother wasting your time on MSNBC groupies who will never get it!
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 16, 19 11:55 AM
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Joe, thanks for your response, for what it’s worth. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of his statements, not sure why you chimed in.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 16, 19 12:06 PM
He certainly did say he had a problem with anyone identifying as African American, but then said he respects those who agree with him politically in the form of "blexit."

That's called hypocrisy, and speaking of groupies, here's Joe!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 12:12 PM
Ud, blexit looks like single file line for confession. Good luck
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 14, 19 4:15 PM
well, you will find me on that line from time to time as well. its good for the soul.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 15, 19 8:00 PM
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very true once again, you are a wise man indeed
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 15, 19 8:19 PM
Well said UD and I am proud to be your neighbor! Very proud to live in a community with a free thinking gentleman like yourself. Single lines turn into standing room only if you follow your heart and the truth! People like you don't need luck... you have already made your own!
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 14, 19 6:30 PM
The New York Times, under its “New York Times Opinion” Twitter banner, issued an apology late Saturday, saying it had deleted an “offensive” Twitter message promoting a Times article that makes allegations against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

“We deleted a previous tweet regarding this article,” the Times Opinion message said. “It was offensive, and we apologize.”

The original Times tweet graphically described an obscene ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 15, 19 3:55 AM
The New York Times, under its “New York Times Opinion” Twitter banner, issued an apology late Saturday, saying it had deleted an “offensive” Twitter message promoting a Times article that makes allegations against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

“We deleted a previous tweet regarding this article,” the Times Opinion message said. “It was offensive, and we apologize.”

The original Times tweet graphically described an obscene ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 15, 19 3:55 AM
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The New York Times is only good for bird cage lining.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 15, 19 8:17 AM
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The New York Times suddenly made a major revision to a supposed bombshell piece late Sunday concerning a resurfaced allegation of sexual assault by Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh -- hours after virtually all 2020 Democratic presidential candidates had cited the original article as a reason to impeach Kavanaugh.

The update included the significant detail that several friends of the alleged victim said she did not recall the supposed sexual assault in ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 16, 19 4:51 AM
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A prominent black journalist has expressed extreme skepticism about a story Joe Biden told, in which the former vice president said he stood up to a local gang leader at a swimming pool in 1962. lol Joe Biden told a harrowing story during an event in 2017 about facing down a razor-wielding gang leader named Corn Pop in his youth by threatening to “wrap” a chain around the man’s head. The incident came back into the spotlight over the weekend when footage of Biden’s remarks ...more
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 16, 19 7:27 AM
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THE TRUTH by J B......

"After I took Corn Pop down, we became fast friends..... So together with his hot sister Pop Tart we hopped in Cesar Sayocs white van covered in Trump stickers, which strangely didn't have a scratch on it, and we went for a Subway Sammich at 2 am with Jussie Smollet. He was covered in bleach and had a rope around his neck, but we didn't think anything of it. As we were leaving, Nick Sandmann jumped out with a MAGA hat on and stared at us, so I grabbed a drum and beat ...more
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 16, 19 7:40 AM
...... LOL I have got tears in my eyes.

Tonight Pete Buttigieg is going to tell a story about a overly nice man who lived next door to his childhood home named Apple Jack.
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 16, 19 7:52 AM
Laugh all you want but word on the street is that Corn Pop hung with Snap, Crackle & Pop - and with just a few Kix to the Grape Nuts, Corn Pops was a bowl of mush.
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 16, 19 8:26 AM
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Hurricane Humberto will most likely hit eastern Long Island much harder than expected!
By Aeshtron (393), Southampton on Sep 16, 19 10:08 AM
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Monday, September 16, 2019

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 16, 19 10:31 AM
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What is an outlier?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 10:35 AM
@ joe hampton & Po Boy:

- - - And that figure is 41.8 PERCENT according to ALL the polls (including Rasmussen.)

Why-oh-why do you true believers keep posting these nonsensical Rasmussen "statistics" that only affirm normal readers' assessment of your blind bias and/or dishonesty?
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 16, 19 2:15 PM
I don't get it either. You'd think they'd get tired of having it pointed out to them.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 2:42 PM
They're doing it to you guys with the polls again.

And you're falling for it. Again.
By even fIow (16), Westhampton Beach on Sep 16, 19 4:33 PM
What's more likely: that EVERY other poll is biased, or that Rasmussen is an outlier?

Occam's razor says the latter.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 16, 19 4:38 PM
@ even flow

Quote:

"They're doing it to you guys with the polls again.

And you're falling for it. Again."
--------------------------------

Right, even flow. Like Every-Single-Fact that true believers don't like - - - it's a CONSPIRACY. (There are millions of them, to judge by true believers like yourself on this forum.)
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 16, 19 5:44 PM
@ highhatsize

Quote:

"The specter of The Donald leading the true believers to a crushing defeat in November has unhinged the extreme Right-Wingers on this thread. They are trodding - - - frenetically - - - on each other's heels in their eagerness to smear our president-to-be and her husband with novel, substance-free defamations, pausing only to praise the fatuous lies posted by their colleagues. One can only hope that their unbearable stress is somewhat relieved by this odd, ...more
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 16, 19 7:26 PM
looks like tcm just affirmed mr. hats blind bias and/or dishonesty?

~ giggle ~
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 16, 19 7:29 PM
A real trade war over false (lies) of currency manipulation. Ever six months, a report is created by the Treasury Department which identifies currency manipulators. China has never been on this list.

Sucker and fools who believe the Prevaricator in Chief will let him get low interest rates on all the debt he's leveraged by screwing everyone. If the Trump cheerleaders were any stupider, they'd make dullness look like genius. F***** idiots.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 7:51 PM
I have no recollection of a sexual assault at the hands of a NYT reporter. If true, that's a despicable crime of which to be guilty.
By even fIow (16), Westhampton Beach on Sep 16, 19 11:10 AM
The Democrat candidates demanding Justice Cavanaugh be impeached over an alleged incident where the alleged "victim" has no recollection of it is the worst bit of blatant politically motivated BRAVO SIERRA yet. Carry on please, carry on :)
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 16, 19 4:58 PM
All Democrats are traitors against the United States and the American People.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 16, 19 5:18 PM
That's a pretty strong statement.

Let's keep in mind the intelligence agencies just pulled their assets out of Russia because they didn't trust your boy Trump to not expose them to his master's in Moscow.
By bird (817), Sag Harbor on Sep 16, 19 6:04 PM
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You just can't fix stupid...

Symptoms of date rape drugs generally include dizziness, confusion, and loss of memory.

What is a date rape drug?
Date rape drugs are used to make a person more vulnerable to sexual assault and easier to attack. Sometimes, one or more drugs are used to distract a person so they become unaware of what’s going on and unable to protect themselves. These drugs are often secretly slipped into someone’s drink.

The most well-known ...more
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 7:28 PM
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Ever hear of date rape drugs, Skippy?
No one is accusing Neil Gorsuch of not being fit for the Supreme Court so you can knock off your whining about ideology. Just alone for the fact that Kavanaugh lied to the American public and under oath in the confirmation hearings he should be nowhere near our justice system, much less on the highest court in the land. That the FBI followed trump's orders to conduct a sham investigation and that he got his fellow criminal sex abuser in place to ...more
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 16, 19 7:34 PM
Skippy just thinks he's smart. Same problem with most of the people who manage to acquire power in this world. The fool with a lust for power and/or wealth is not the person you want in charge. However, people let them be anyway...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 7:39 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 16, 19 7:59 PM
Which one were you ditch bum, dumb or dumber?
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 16, 19 8:18 PM
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Yeah. Problem is you're as wrong as the socialist policies to cover the fallout of his failed strategy, Protectionist in Chief, communist demands of the free market president. DON'T DO BUSINESS IN CHINA

If the "right wing" had any brains, they'd know the difference between socialism and communism. As it stands, y'all ain't got a f****n clue.
Sep 16, 19 8:19 PM appended by Mr. Z
Ah crap. Fred and I posted only a moment apart. We must be the same person too. What a bunch of dumba$$e$...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 8:19 PM
god bless our president donald j trump for having the courage to stand up for justice kavanaugh !
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 16, 19 7:35 PM
Please stop embarrassing yourself. If the president had courage, he wouldn't be nicknamed "cadet bone spurs".

Peddle your horse**** somewhere else.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 7:41 PM
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Tell that to Deborah Ramirez' mother.
God better bless those two brothers-in-crime.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 16, 19 8:00 PM
embarrassing ? no not at all I love our president more and more everyday .
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 17, 19 2:50 PM
Yes, we know he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and wouldn't lose your support.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 2:56 PM
@Erin27 E: What self-respecting woman could "love" a serial sex abuser/rapist? What intelligent American could support a liar, a conman, an ignoramus? What kind of upbringing must one have had to value those traits? Do you teach your children to value them? This is sad and revolting that your standards are so low.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 17, 19 9:14 PM
GOP 2020 candidate Joe Walsh: 'The Republican Party is a cult'
Rebecca Morin, USA TODAY

"I've given up on the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a cult," Walsh said in an interview with CNN. "They no longer stand for ideas. The Republican Party right now is all about washing their leader's feet every day."
Sep 16, 19 7:44 PM appended by Mr. Z
A jackass can kick a barn down, but it takes a carpenter to build one. ~ Sam Rayburn
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 7:44 PM
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Just in case you missed it:

Protectionist in Chief...

Trump says U.S. should start manipulating the dollar
Trump on Wednesday accused China and Europe of playing a "big currency manipulation game," but doing so would directly contradict official U.S. policy.

By Martin Crutsinger, AP

Sep 15, 19 9:30 AM appended by Mr. Z
And the LIES keep on coming: ***As a candidate in 2016, Trump repeatedly charged that China was manipulating its currency and as president ...more
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 7:59 PM
Nope, no emoluments violations or nepotism to see here...

How Fox News lets the Trump family off the hook for profiting off the presidency
It’s not a matter of opinion, but Fox News treats it as such.

By Aaron Rupar

"So far, 111 officials from 65 foreign governments have made 137 visits to a Trump property, raising the question of how much foreign money has been spent at Trump's properties"
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 8:55 PM
News by VICE

Trump's Asylum Policies Sent Him Back to Mexico. He Was Kidnapped Five Hours Later By a Cartel.

David's story is not unique.

By Emily Green
Sep 16 2019, 7:23am

Powerful criminal organizations have seized on Trump’s changes, targeting asylum seekers with family in the U.S. by holding them hostage until their relatives come up with thousands of dollars to pay for their release.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 16, 19 8:59 PM
"A president who lies about weather maps cannot be trusted on Iran"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 6:51 AM
"All Democrats are traitors against the United States and the American People.
By themarlinspike (476), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 16, 19 5:18 PM"
Sep 17, 19 8:40 AM appended by themarlinspike
Your supportive quote from the marxist malfeasant Ilhan Omar puts you in the worst class of anti-American people.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 17, 19 8:40 AM
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Go away Marlin.
We recall you're a bigot.
No need to remind.
Sep 17, 19 9:00 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Get a subscription.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 9:00 AM
He's running out of tourists to fleece on his boat!!
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Sep 17, 19 9:07 AM
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Omar is as anti-American as can be, of course the alt leftists here defend her!
By bigfresh (4553), north sea on Sep 17, 19 1:39 PM
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"9/11 was an attack on all Americans. It was an attack on all of us, and I certainly could not understand the weight of the pain that the families of the victims of 9/11 must feel...It’s important for us to make sure that we are not forgetting the aftermath of 9/11, [when] many Americans found themselves now having their civil rights stripped from them, and so what I was speaking to was that as a Muslim, not only was I suffering as an American who was attacked on that day, but the next day ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 2:48 PM
well fore1gnborn i for one did not know you were a muslim until now.

you must admit that omar does not do you and other muslims in this country any favors to reverse the stereotype that all muslums are sympathetic to the radical type within there community's..

americans like there country the way it is and we do not wish to go though the culture shock europe is currently going through.

if muslims truly want to become american then in my opinion muslim community's should ...more
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 17, 19 3:03 PM
Please keep making assumptions about others. They say more about you than about them.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 3:34 PM
Your comment was to sensible and honest Erin, he could not handle it .
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 4:02 PM
"Not only was I suffering as an American who was attacked on that day, but the next day I woke up as my fellow Americans were now treating me as suspect."

She's as American as either of you, die mad about it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 4:05 PM
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Taqiyya and Alinsky tactics are overlapping

The Dem. Party is a proxy of Sunni Muslims. Pelosi had the nerve to appoint this anti American Radical Muslim Omar into the key position on the Foreign Affairs Committee. Political alliance between Marxists and Radicals is not acceptable and has to be crushed!
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 17, 19 4:22 PM
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Democrat Socialists are dichotomous by nature; they talk out of both sides of their mouths. On one hand they claim to decry "rape culture," to the point of actually creating contrived rape scenarios in order to turn themselves into victims. On the other hand, they participate in and illegally import (and provide sanctuary to) Third World radicals who hail from a real rape culture. Never trust a Democrat Socialist, they will do whatever feels good at the moment with no semblance of morality...always ...more
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 17, 19 4:26 PM
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"9/11 was an attack on all Americans. It was an attack on all of us"

Sorry you don't care about civil liberties as much as real Americans.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 4:26 PM
Omar is a lier who married her brother

Mohamad Tawhidi, an Islamic reformer who revealed a 2013 post on Omar’s Twitter and Instagram profiles which named her father, “Nur Said.” Tawhidi then argued that, in keeping with Muslim culture, any children of this man would bear the surname “Nur Said” which he said proved the ongoing speculation that when Omar married U.K. citizen Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, she married her brother.

Tawhidi made these statements ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 17, 19 4:50 PM
The whole family arrived as refugees from Somalia in the Nineties.

You guys are a gaggle of idiots.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 17, 19 5:01 PM
The citizenship bestowed upon her by our country should be NULL AND VOID. Our government should start deportation proceedings immediately. but she is a Muslim a Woman of color and a Democrate so absolutely nothing is going to happen to her.
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 17, 19 5:09 PM
Well good thing you don't get to decide who is and isn't a citizen, TCM.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 5:28 PM
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By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 17, 19 9:08 PM
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By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 17, 19 9:08 PM
Ha, like you know the meaning--much less how to spell--of the word "dichotomous". Again, the nerve to persist in posting without citation when you demand it of others. Not that any sentient being would be moved to look into more of this ridiculous skata.
Sep 17, 19 9:22 PM appended by June Bug
Meant for Danny Boy 27.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 17, 19 9:22 PM
Oh June you are a rip, please never change your so Sag Harbor
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 18, 19 12:46 AM
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Omar should be more worried about the laws that she broke including immigration fraud, marriage fraud and tax fraud. Allegations against Brett Kavanaugh are just that, allegations..... It looks like there's actual evidence against Omar, so
lock her up and ship her out ! 'Taqinsky' is now the combined approach of the Democrats and the Shi'ite branch of Islam - two allies in evil - their approaches formerly known as Taqiyya and Alinsky. Both are doctrines of deception. Ilhan Omar is a radical ...more
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 17, 19 4:36 PM
Prove it. You can't. It's bunk.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 5:28 PM
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By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 17, 19 8:17 PM
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Bigotry on parade, or should I say the bigotry hit parade. Foolishness is abundant. You all call yourselves good Americans, that is a stretch. Intolerance is a pathetic way to go through life. Carry on, all of your comments are sickening.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 17, 19 5:16 PM
You should be forced to read yours ...
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 17, 19 5:19 PM
TCM hates America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 17, 19 5:30 PM
Max Stier hates America,

The Left and their colluding Marxist Media are in a deep state panic flipping between RBG croaking and the pending FISA court abuse indictments.

Andrew McCabe and John Brennan reporting at the Communist News Network:
It would be justice if these two S bags where in the studio live when the news broke.

Trump is over the Target...Bombs Away !!
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 18, 19 1:05 AM
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They call me, you are the leader of the parade.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 17, 19 5:21 PM
Biden is leading the field in New York’s democrat primary according to the Siena College poll who surveyed 798 New York voters September 8-12, 2019, with 22 percent choosing Biden as their candidate of choice.
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 17, 19 7:36 PM
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The future of America has brown skin : )
By Aeshtron (393), Southampton on Sep 17, 19 10:06 PM
Sure am glad that I got to grow up in the time of Bay Watch : ) before you banish all those delicious blond hair and blue eyed babes from the country.
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 18, 19 1:00 AM
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Ditch Bum hates America because he wants it to remain majority white.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 18, 19 7:07 AM
Sorry to hear you hate blonde white woman.
It's just another thing wrong with you.
You are the hater of all that surrounds you.
Sep 18, 19 8:19 AM appended by themarlinspike
Please cancel your subscription.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 18, 19 8:19 AM
Unlike you I think
America is for all
Skin tones and backgrounds.

I don't hate people.
You and Ditch hate the U.S.
Write better haikus.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 18, 19 9:44 AM
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Alien moves to Southampton & starts bossing around the locals.
Alien moves to U.S. & says multi generational Americans hate their own country.
Alien, legal or illegal.
Cancel your subscription.
Sep 18, 19 10:26 AM appended by themarlinspike
Additionally you're quite the projectionist : what is, is not & what is not, is. A purely political animal (or Neanderthal) thou art.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 18, 19 10:26 AM
You hate differences!
The same differences that make
us the best nation.

It is obvious:
You hate America and
all it signifies.

Fake American.
You hate immigrants daily.
Pretend patriot.
Sep 18, 19 11:19 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Marlin hates brown folks - "multigenerational" - is a dog-whistle.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 18, 19 11:19 AM
But Marlin dislikes foolish comments made by people of all colors.
The dog whistle here is "Neanderthal" & you came running to my feet. "Good Girl" (or boy) !!!!!!
A "multigenerational" local resident here is as great as it gets.
A leftist socialist democrat is as bad as it gets.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 19, 19 8:46 AM
"Neanderthal", too.
Your hatred in general
tells us about you.

Also your lack of
imagination in all
of your childish slurs.

and let's not forget
your hatred of liberty
and diversity.

You are not what makes
America amazing.
You are spoiled old fish.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 9:22 AM
Your imagination is hyper overactive.
You hear dog whistles everywhere.
There is professional help for that.
Maybe then you will see the light of day.
Otherwise stop being a nuisance to Southampton.
Sep 19, 19 10:14 AM appended by themarlinspike
. . . . and if you want to be a projectionist, get a job in a movie theater. Or just get a real job somewhere !!!!!!!!!!!
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 19, 19 10:14 AM
What makes you think that
I don't have a real job now?
Benefits are great!

Among them the chance
to chat with marlin daily
and draw out his thoughts.

For one example:
he admitted dog-whistling.
Does he realize?

His hatred is here,
plain as day for all to see.
Still no subscription.

Does he think we're blind?
Will we find out tomorrow?
Maybe in haiku?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 10:30 AM
Socialist women have bad teeth.
Sep 20, 19 8:09 AM appended by themarlinspike
Just watch CNN or NBC sometime.
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 20, 19 8:09 AM
Well that's not a haiku.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 20, 19 9:31 AM
Try this :
Whistle while YOU work.
Hum a merry tune.
As YOU sweep the room.
With YOUR trusty broom.
Sep 20, 19 9:37 AM appended by themarlinspike
(Dedicated To My Favorite Socialist Fool)
By themarlinspike (489), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 20, 19 9:37 AM
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That's also not a haiku, but I like it anyway!
Sep 20, 19 9:43 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Just can't help yourself with the namecalling, can you?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 20, 19 9:43 AM
In hindsight probably a bad idea to host anyone from the NYT (past or present) for any discussion where honesty is the topic.
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 18, 19 5:09 AM
I vote they do a group interview with you and your fellow right wing posters, now that would be a good one.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 18, 19 5:14 AM
A researcher and fact checker for the New York Times has a history of using racist and homophobic slurs on Twitter.

Gina Cherelus — who on her LinkedIn page describes herself as “a researcher and fact-checker for The New York Times’ Opinion section”– appears to have deleted the offensive Tweets on Tuesday. But some were still accessible on her Twitter account.

The revelation represents the latest public embarrassment for the Times. Last week, the ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 18, 19 6:03 AM
Even flow, she sounds like your peeps. Do you find her tweets offensive? Looks like her next job should be in the trump administration.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 18, 19 6:48 AM
even flow - It appears that you are upset that a couple of people who work for the NYT exhibit in their private lives, some of the characteristics of your president.

You also imply that because someone has made some morally questionable statements, they are not capable of opening a dictionary and checking how a word is spelled. That's kind of like saying that because someone drives a green car, they are not capable of peeling an apple.

I have one word for you...covfefe...
By bird (817), Sag Harbor on Sep 18, 19 6:42 AM
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By bird (817), Sag Harbor on Sep 18, 19 6:42 AM
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My fair skinned white partner can't be outside in full sun for more than ten minutes without smelly sunscreen or they look like a tomato.
By Aeshtron (393), Southampton on Sep 18, 19 11:31 AM
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Is the use of "they" here the use of a non-binary pronoun? Please no offense. Just curious as I only learned of this phenomenon last night.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 18, 19 12:24 PM
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My favorite thing about gender-neutral pro-nouns is that they highlight how unimportant knowing a person's gender is in most instances.

For example, Aeshtron's story is exactly the same whether "he/she/they" is used; knowing the gender is totally inconsequential to the information conveyed.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 18, 19 3:13 PM
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Says you
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 18, 19 6:15 PM
I only learned of this phenomenon last night.

phenomenon = attention seeking nut



By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 18, 19 6:29 PM
The use of "they" and "partner" in my September 18th comment are examples of the use of gender-neutral language but not necessarily non-binary language. I could be a cisgendered womyn with a cisgendered masculine husband who uses the terms "partner" and "they" to show solidarity, and wokeness, with marginalized communities. Or, I could be a non-binary professional fetishist who makes a living discreetly servicing conservative politicians in airport restrooms ; ). Non-binary people are those who ...more
By Aeshtron (393), Southampton on Sep 19, 19 10:11 AM
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the American people need to turn their backs on the blatant racists in the Democrat Socialist Party who present charlatans like Al Sharpton as prototypical. all Americans desperately need strong role models like Candace Owens and Ben Carson. 54% of all inner city pregnancies end in abortion which is celebrated by the Democrat Socialist Party. This is disgusting !

The Democrat party’s new love affair with illegal aliens is a slap in the face to many struggling Americans who have faithfully ...more
Sep 18, 19 6:11 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
A rising tide indeed lifts all boats
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 18, 19 6:11 PM
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Copy and pasting without citation is apparently accepted on this thread now. Duly noted.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 18, 19 7:38 PM
Plagiarism is the only way a "right winger" can sound intelligent.

Oopsie...

A crack just emerged in the financial markets: The NY Fed spends $53 billion to rescue the overnight lending market

Matt Egan

Borrowing rates skyrocketed on Tuesday in a corner of the markets the public rarely notices but that is critical to the functioning of the global financial system.

Read: For the second day in a row, the NY Fed injected billions of dollars into the markets

The ...more
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 18, 19 8:06 PM
"Copy and pasting without citation" Your ass uming a lot
By They call me (2758), southampton on Sep 18, 19 8:50 PM
Abolish the Federal Reserve. End political manipulation of the economy. For eight years the Fed propped up Obama with low interest rates and then they try to sabotage President Trump by raising interest rates.
TRUMP 2020!
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 18, 19 8:56 PM
Well, that was cl ass y.
Why assume when you know?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 19, 19 7:19 PM
You do realize that not only have abortions been in decline for years, they've achieved a new low. So, despite the "right wing" paranoia and idiocy the fear is pretty much unfounded.

What is it like to be manipulated and used via fear anyway? I'm sure y'all could enlighten us...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 19, 19 10:53 PM
27dan, the economy Obama inherited was in a deep recession, which he turned around. Trump on the other hand is going to put us in a recession.
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 18, 19 9:45 PM
.....Wendnesdays Close

Dow 27,147.08
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 18, 19 11:49 PM
So what you're saying is we've almost recovered from the losses in July?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 6:55 AM
YES ! July and August are always slow months combined. That combined with the medias the sky is falling forecasts everyday during the long overdue tamping down on Chinas less then fair trade practices. Trump once again weathered the storm and America is doing great!
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 19, 19 7:13 AM
Yeah, I don't really listen economic analysts who don't use use apostrophes or know the difference between "their" and "there".
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 7:32 AM
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Right on Joe!
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 8:29 AM
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Well, business cycle indicators came out today:

Leading economic indicators were flat
Lagging indicators declined 0.3%
Coincident indicators increased 0.3%

Nope, nothing to see there. No matter what, the CONNEDservatives will blame Hillary's emails.
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 19, 19 9:55 PM
Having a p**is thrust in your face at a drunken dorm party may seem like harmless fun. But when Brett Kavanaugh did it to her, Deborah Ramirez says, it confirmed that she didn't belong at Yale in the first place," the tweet read.

NYT cultural reporter Robin Pogrebin appeared alongside her colleague Kate Kelly on "The View," where she confirmed earlier reports that she herself wrote that tweet.

She then explained that the tweet was meant to be in the context ...more
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 19, 19 5:42 AM
@ even flow

An accurate transcription of the unattributed Fox News article.*

Do you have a point to make all on your own? (Oops! Forgot. You're a true believer. Perhaps instead you could follow true believer s.o.p. and seek out another unattributed article to express your opinion written by someone actually capable of THINKING.)


* "New York Times reporter of controversial Kavanaugh piece admits to writing tweet that also sparked backlash" by Joseph A. Wulfsohn ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 19, 19 6:32 AM
While the NYT is busy smearing a sitting SCOTUS Justice with fake news and lies and lying some more as they explain their obvious propaganda away they are not reporting on the horrific monster Ed Buck the “prominent democrat donor”.
By even flow (951), East Hampton on Sep 19, 19 6:23 AM
Ed Buck is all over the news. If Kavanaugh thinks it's a smear he should sue about it, or die still mad.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 6:44 AM
Seems the only politician in North America who hasn't been photographed in "blackface" is Donald Trump.
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 19, 19 10:29 AM
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Oh it's there. Just hidden with orange.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 19, 19 11:09 PM
Leftists here will maliciously continue to burn the proverbial flag as a way to get a rise out of people. Its part of there playbook Victimhood 101... Everybody should just relax... Its ok the President is doing a great job. Trump’s second term will be a disaster... for the establishment party hacks who he’s continuing to expose as failures and traitors. A disaster for that group is a victory for regular Americans. Vote for America in 2020.

Now everyone get out there and make ...more
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 19, 19 7:04 AM
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Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black.

I'm not going to vote for someone who hates America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 7:09 AM
Foregotten….
By Po Boy (4916), Water Mill on Sep 19, 19 8:30 AM
I'm still not sure what that means, but thanks for your name-calling!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 9:25 AM
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GO JOE right as usual the Dow is currently up over 90 points to 27,242.94 and climbing higher as we speak on the way to new all time highs as it passes 27,359.16,

Trump know exactly what he is doing !
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 19, 19 10:24 AM
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Boy, you really celebrated prematurely on this one Dan and Joe.

What'd the market end up at? Minus 52 on the day?

Maybe wait until the closing bell next time.
Sep 19, 19 7:08 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Not "the market" I meant the Dow.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 19, 19 7:08 PM
To rely on and limit the Dow to judge economic health is foolish and ignores all the societal quality of life indices in which we are badly failing-- highest infant mortality rates in the developed world, #46 in life expectancy behind South Korea, Puerto Rico et. al, substance abuse, access to education, affordability, quality of infrastructure, environmental quality, etc. etc.
trump knows nothing except how to line his wallet and break laws.
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 20, 19 11:55 AM
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You're right, most people don't benefit directly from stock booms, but if that's the metric Dan, Joe and Trump want to hang their hat on, let's make them hang their hat on it when it's down too.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 20, 19 12:19 PM
An easily manipulated market is an unreliable metric especially in a "boom".
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 20, 19 8:05 PM
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Wall Street is less than 10% of the nation.

And, how's that socialism to save the agricultural vote going?
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 21, 19 2:24 AM
My short/medium term account is currently long HBI, ZTCOY, BBD.TO, QSR and AUY while short BAC and TSLA. The reality of my short-term positions are more nuanced than this, with straddles and such silliness. Not that anyone asked but this thread is obscure enough that I figured I'd pointlessly jam it in here. I agree that stock market is not a portrayal of the economy that most Americans experience and the Dow 30 is a particularly small cross section. Finally, the bass are starting to show on ...more
By Aeshtron (393), Southampton on Sep 20, 19 3:37 PM
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Aeshtron, don’t forget the whales and dolphins spotted daily off our ocean beaches!!
By Fred s (3039), Southampton on Sep 20, 19 4:12 PM
greatest flotus ever! she is a first lady we all can be proud of. simply beautiful, as always.
By Erin 27 E (1240), hampton bays on Sep 21, 19 1:06 AM
Pretty sure it's not all natural...
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 21, 19 1:41 AM
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@ Erin 27 E

Melania is a cliché. A beautiful woman who married an old man - - - unprepossessing in appearance, personality and character - - - for his money.

Not exactly the stuff of romance novels and a tad tacky but no big deal.

But she has done nothing as first lady other than keep her head down. Your accolade is but another example of bias supplanting reason in the true believer mind.
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 22, 19 8:40 PM
No self-respecting woman is able to find anything admirable about this woman who has stayed with a man who cheated on her weeks after giving birth to his child, who broke the law on her arrival here as an immigrant, whose nude photos are all over the internet, and has done nothing as First Lady. "Be Best"? What on earth is that supposed to mean? Maybe open your piehole when your husband is caging babies?
By June Bug (2541), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 22, 19 9:35 PM
Obama built those detention centers, you have to temporarily separate those children, where they will be in a safe environment away from other law breakers like there parents.
Sep 23, 19 6:46 AM appended by Ditch Bum
their parents
By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 23, 19 6:46 AM
At least now you are openly wearing your desire to split up families on your sleeve.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 23, 19 2:05 PM
Does "Crooked Hillary" make sense yet?


Hillary Clinton’s Zombie Impeachment Memo That Could Help Fell Trump

A congressional report Clinton helped pen during Watergate was later used to justify impeaching her husband. Now it's guiding Democrats angling to oust Trump.

By DARREN SAMUELSOHN September 16, 2019
By Mr. Z (11572), North Sea on Sep 21, 19 2:30 AM
Friday, September 20, 2019

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 52% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
By joe hampton (3400), The Hamptons on Sep 22, 19 4:23 PM
By the time the NFL’s Week 3 games had come and gone on Sunday, there were many fans on social media still left wondering why stadiums across the nation seemed so empty.

Feel good article of the day! Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of imbeciles (players AND league/team management). Thanks to thugs like Antonio Brown and the anti-American knee-bros the NFL is forever dead to many Americans. Antonio Brown is not unique in the NFL. There are scores of thugs just like ...more
By 27dan (2778), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 22, 19 10:00 PM
You sure talk about the NFL a lot for someone who's not interested in it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7708), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 22, 19 10:11 PM
@ 27dan

Colin Kaepernick began kneeling at the start of the 2016 preseason. If "kneeling" really had any substantive effect on NFL attendance, there would be a significant decline by now. No matter how true believers try to finesse the numbers, there simply isn't.

"I" think that "taking a knee" during the national anthem is profoundly disrespectful and grossly insensitive and it would certainly be nice to see NFL fans make an ethical decision to boycott NFL games until it stopped ...more
By highhatsize (4151), East Quogue on Sep 23, 19 10:32 AM
XFL 2020 : Get ready... for an American choice to this garbage of late !

By Ditch Bum (862), Water Mill on Sep 23, 19 6:42 AM
Get ready ... for the XFL to fail once again.
By Pacman (269), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 11:11 AM
San Gennaro Feast of the Hamptons, Hampton Bays, Scottos